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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:08 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:09 pm 
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Garmin will use S3 for the northern classics

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but I guess they keep their R3 for Roubaix


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:21 pm 
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pastronef wrote:
Garmin will use S3 for the northern classics

but I guess they keep their R3 for Roubaix


More than likely the Mud version of the R3

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:51 pm 
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petepeterson wrote:
I have a really difficult time believing that Merida or any of the other manufacturers for that matter are producing custom molds for these guys.


Peter Sagan's Synapse. Custom geometry beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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His Evo is too, but the Synapse is a better example as it's impossible to argue against. Just look at it! :P


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:59 pm 
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It really depends on how the frame is constructed whether it's custom geometry is plausible or not. Not all frames are monocoque like the ones from the mold petepeterson posted. Ones like those are definitely not likely to be made custom since it would require an entirely new mold which is not cheap. Different layups are entirely possible no matter the manufacturing process and most big name pro frames are probably different than what you can buy.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:07 am 
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deek wrote:
Ones like those are definitely not likely to be made custom since it would require an entirely new mold which is not cheap.
Well, if Sagan's salary is about 4 million euros per year http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cannondale-set-to-team-up-with-tinkoff-in-2014, and good results by him are valuable to the team owner and sponsors, then maybe a custom monocoque is worth it, if it improves his chance of good performances.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:40 am 
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Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold. Apparently a few other Cannondale riders used it when the SS first came out.

Boonen is still on custom Specialized frames. 60cm TT, size 56 HT

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:53 am 
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Still wish they'd change the C'dale color...I know Sagan is partial to green, but maybe a more subdued shade...


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:23 am 
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KWalker wrote:
Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold. Apparently a few other Cannondale riders used it when the SS first came out.


Didn't Bennati finish up with Cannondale before the Evo was released? It's possible that they rode the same geometry, but it wouldn't be the same mold.

The actual cost of producing a new mold isn't as prohibitively expensive as people might think.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:24 am 
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nealrab wrote:
Still wish they'd change the C'dale color...I know Sagan is partial to green, but maybe a more subdued shade...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:44 am 
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Sagans is a 58tt with the head tube of the 54cm. Custom tube to tube.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:58 am 
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genesis692 wrote:
KWalker wrote:
Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold. Apparently a few other Cannondale riders used it when the SS first came out.


Didn't Bennati finish up with Cannondale before the Evo was released? It's possible that they rode the same geometry, but it wouldn't be the same mold.

The actual cost of producing a new mold isn't as prohibitively expensive as people might think.


I think people get hung up on what mold's used to cost before CNC machines and advancements in CAM software. Mold's are getting pretty darn cheap compared what they used to be when they were made on manual mills.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:24 am 
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Sarto (and probably a bunch of others) do T2T 'replicas', to suit pro's who want custom geo...


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:52 am 
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KWalker wrote:
Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold.


Do you mean geometry?

It's not the same mold because it's not the same frame.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:09 am 
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Sagan's custom has been mentioned a few times from memory eg: http://www.bikeradar.com/au/news/article/pro-bike-peter-sagans-cannondale-supersix-evo-hi-mod-34462/


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