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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:01 pm 
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Not sure if this is OT but this might have weighed on Rabo's choice to leave the sport

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... resurfaces

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:45 pm 
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Knowing a fair bit about both, no, they definitely had zero connection to each other.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:58 pm 
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http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15730 ... -2013.aspx

Shocked at this guys' name. Hey... It is PRO cycling related though.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:35 pm 
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To be filed under 'was only a matter of time' :-(

Chicken taught Ryder how to use EPO
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report- ... o-take-epo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:22 pm 
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Yeah I read that article this AM. I have always hoped Ryder was clean but was never sure. Especially since he hadn't really ever done anything until 2009/2010, plus his history of riding on USPS/Discovery and Phonak.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:35 pm 
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Technically he'd be protected by this from 8 yr statute of limitations.

Edit- to be fair, I still give him the 'post-2007 slipstream we clean' benefit of the doubt


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:30 pm 
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also giving ryder the benefit of the doubt post slipstream. like to think garmin as a whole is clean. lots of ex-dopers on that team that seem to be clean and on the straight and narrow now. wonder if vaughters knew of ryder's alleged doping beforehand but just didn't say anything?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:53 pm 
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He's already confessed and really it's not the most shocking revelation ever.

McGrath went >50 at worlds in 1997 so i don't know how Chicken "introduced" him to it....
Sheppard was popped for using EPO in 2005
Ryder rode for Postal & Phonak in the dark ages so ya...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:38 pm 
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More here
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15739/Hesjedal-admits-doping-says-it-was-short-lived-and-more-than-ten-years-ago.aspx

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:07 pm 
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It is quite refreshing that he admitted it immediately


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:20 pm 
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geedawg wrote:
also giving ryder the benefit of the doubt post slipstream. like to think garmin as a whole is clean. lots of ex-dopers on that team that seem to be clean and on the straight and narrow now. wonder if vaughters knew of ryder's alleged doping beforehand but just didn't say anything?

I was slightly dubious of his 2012 Giro performance, considering his performances prior to that win, and in particular his performances after. He could have gambled with micro-dosing to get that one big career win.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:38 pm 
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He admitted it immediately . . . after being outed.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:09 am 
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He admitted it immediately . . . after being outed.


+1. Should be banned regardless of when it took place ala LA.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:42 am 
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So Garmin is just a less fashion forward and less tacky version of Rock Racing

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:51 am 
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So Garmin is just a less fashion forward and less tacky version of Rock Racing


Except most of the riders - bar Millar - weren't banned at some point before they joined the team.

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