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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:41 pm 
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Yes he was in the middle of a stage and the car wasn't going to get there so he started to change it but did not have to eventually since he got a new wheel.

And it's Chiappucci not Cappuccino! :lol:
Wrong!
It is taken from the rest day. He suffered a rear puncture on the Col de Marie Blanque, resulting in Legeay pulling Duclos-Lassalle & Kvålsvoll over to wait for LeMond.


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Why is it that the Tour has far more stages, on average, in which a summit finish is actually a summit+5km of downhill after? This never made much sense to me.

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I think it's for a couple reasons, to give more towns a stage finish rather than some barren mountaintop and also it's easier to manage the huge circus that is Le Tour logistically that way.

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ultimobici wrote:
stella-azzurra wrote:
Yes he was in the middle of a stage and the car wasn't going to get there so he started to change it but did not have to eventually since he got a new wheel.

And it's Chiappucci not Cappuccino! :lol:
Wrong!
It is taken from the rest day. He suffered a rear puncture on the Col de Marie Blanque, resulting in Legeay pulling Duclos-Lassalle & Kvålsvoll over to wait for LeMond.


I though it was during this http://articles.latimes.com/1990-07-19/ ... _flat-tire
And it clearly says in the twitter pic

The day Cappuccino attacked
https://twitter.com/LeMondBikes/status/ ... 92/photo/1

And a video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guI8WSR5H68

go to 10:30 in the clip

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:13 pm 
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This has been done to death. The photo of LeMond ripping a FRONT tub off is from the rest day. The clip you post is of the stage later in the race when he had a REAR puncture.


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Then the twitter caption is incorrect. Thank you.

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So the Big Mig gets celebrated with a honorary Tour stage...yeah, right. Guess the 90s are cool again (see Pantani Giro).


It's strange that they would even touch this but I guess most people don't even know who Conconi is. Pretty much sums up how messed cycling culture is with the Pantani/Giro outrage and this celebration.


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ultimobici wrote:
This has been done to death. The photo of LeMond ripping a FRONT tub off is from the rest day. The clip you post is of the stage later in the race when he had a REAR puncture.


Hmmm, climbing a mountain pass on a rest day, sweating profusely (hardly the traditional rest day ride) and compelled to change his own wheel despite being the top rider in the world (wearing the WC jersey no less) and certainly therefore not riding unaccompanied by a team car and/or riders. And a dramatic, Legeay-orchestrated maneuver to top it all off!

Yes, I'm quite sure this happened on a rest day during the Tour :roll:

Not sure you're aware of this, but Erik Breukink spent the better part of that day driving around the region, trying to find a bike shop to stock up on inner tubes for the remaining stages.


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burst out laughing when i saw this (of course not laughing about the stealing part)

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ultimobici wrote:
This has been done to death. The photo of LeMond ripping a FRONT tub off is from the rest day. The clip you post is of the stage later in the race when he had a REAR puncture.


Hmmm, climbing a mountain pass on a rest day, sweating profusely (hardly the traditional rest day ride) and compelled to change his own wheel despite being the top rider in the world (wearing the WC jersey no less) and certainly therefore not riding unaccompanied by a team car and/or riders. And a dramatic, Legeay-orchestrated maneuver to top it all off!

Yes, I'm quite sure this happened on a rest day during the Tour :roll:

Not sure you're aware of this, but Erik Breukink spent the better part of that day driving around the region, trying to find a bike shop to stock up on inner tubes for the remaining stages.


So you're saying Lemond was riding a mountain stage in the TDF carrying a spare tubular to replace the one he's ripping off in the photo? And that after that they used clinchers (for which the team had driven around frantically looking for inner tubes.) Neither of these scenarios is plausible.


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Gert Jan Theunisse wrote:
ultimobici wrote:
This has been done to death. The photo of LeMond ripping a FRONT tub off is from the rest day. The clip you post is of the stage later in the race when he had a REAR puncture.


Hmmm, climbing a mountain pass on a rest day, sweating profusely (hardly the traditional rest day ride) and compelled to change his own wheel despite being the top rider in the world (wearing the WC jersey no less) and certainly therefore not riding unaccompanied by a team car and/or riders. And a dramatic, Legeay-orchestrated maneuver to top it all off!

Yes, I'm quite sure this happened on a rest day during the Tour :roll:

Not sure you're aware of this, but Erik Breukink spent the better part of that day driving around the region, trying to find a bike shop to stock up on inner tubes for the remaining stages.


So you're saying Lemond was riding a mountain stage in the TDF carrying a spare tubular to replace the one he's ripping off in the photo? And that after that they used clinchers (for which the team had driven around frantically looking for inner tubes.) Neither of these scenarios is plausible.


He got the spare from a spectator. It was during a stage, Duclos-Lasalle was ahead in a break and turned round and rode back to meet him after his wheel was changed and helped him chase. Those were the days.


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planB wrote:
Gert Jan Theunisse wrote:
ultimobici wrote:
This has been done to death. The photo of LeMond ripping a FRONT tub off is from the rest day. The clip you post is of the stage later in the race when he had a REAR puncture.


Hmmm, climbing a mountain pass on a rest day, sweating profusely (hardly the traditional rest day ride) and compelled to change his own wheel despite being the top rider in the world (wearing the WC jersey no less) and certainly therefore not riding unaccompanied by a team car and/or riders. And a dramatic, Legeay-orchestrated maneuver to top it all off!

Yes, I'm quite sure this happened on a rest day during the Tour :roll:

Not sure you're aware of this, but Erik Breukink spent the better part of that day driving around the region, trying to find a bike shop to stock up on inner tubes for the remaining stages.


So you're saying Lemond was riding a mountain stage in the TDF carrying a spare tubular to replace the one he's ripping off in the photo? And that after that they used clinchers (for which the team had driven around frantically looking for inner tubes.) Neither of these scenarios is plausible.


He got the spare from a spectator. It was during a stage, Duclos-Lasalle was ahead in a break and turned round and rode back to meet him after his wheel was changed and helped him chase. Those were the days.


This is a real Rashomon story, in which none of the different perspectives seem to make sense. If he took the spare tube from a spectator on a stage, why not just borrow the spectators wheel?


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