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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:43 am 
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prendrefeu wrote:
I like this thread. I imagine it like one big, massive sports bar (pub) that only shows races on the screens and we're just casually chatting it up about whatever race/pro related that is on our minds at the moment. Occassional good, meaty debates make it lively too. It's fun and it seems like it's going on forever.

Here, have a Lefe on me: :beerchug: :thumbup:

I'm having a Coors, because I'm a redneck! :beerchug:
I saw the Pro Challenge stage 6 in person with my daughters two weeks ago now, and I admit it was the first time for me to be a spectator at a pro event. Holy sprockets, it was awesome. Overall there must have been a hundred thousand people out on the course that day, which for northern Colorado really took me by surprise. I'm hooked.


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I'm still waiting to hear why they avoid the most challenging summit finishes and mountain passes in the USAPCC or Tour of Utah. Everyone locally that lives in either location that I know is as well. Instead, we get criterium stages.

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Do those finishes you are writing about KWalker finish near a town? Money is the main deal with where most any stage finishes.

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Interesting topic to me. I've also heard comments about USAPCC not being "challenging". Yet, riders seemed to be dropping like flies. Dombrowski quits because of nosebleeds. Froome finally abandons after the first lap in Denver. Yet KWalker has a point, and Hump's answer is probably spot on for USAPCC at least. There are no towns or even buildings at the most challenging summits in CO, so the concern is to get spectators. Stage 6 was the first time such a race had ever come to northern CO, and the organizing committee had many local riders giving input, but they had to put as many towns on the route as feasible, for the money factor. Loveland - Windsor - Loveland - Estes Park - Fort Collins is how it worked out. 115 miles and 11,855' climbing perhaps not challenging enough I guess, and it was amusing to locals how commentators Phil and Paul seemed dismissive of the five "rollers" at the end of the course, then were surprised when it shattered the peloton, when we all know them as ballbusters. But perhaps the overall success this year will inspire more interesting summits in the future. Stage 6 for example they closed the road along our reservoir where the later "rollers" were, the night before the race, and it's quite a long and strenuous hike or ride to get there, and yet thousands of people made the trek up from town to line the course (http://www.coloradoan.com/videonetwork/ ... nge-riders). Organizers may rethink the fan base next time in designing the courses.


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Does the altitude play a part here, transferring the lacklustre P&P's rollers to legbreakers?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:22 pm 
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What did people say about the weather in the Vuelta vs Giro again? :P


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Rain is not snow. :P


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:36 pm 
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Perhaps not, but it is not just rain though. Riders have abondoning from hypothermia and all.

And it's much better to ride in snow than in the rain ;)


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In Tour of California, finish line logistics are a limiting factor. Indeed, I was shocked and pleased they did Diablo summit, which is tight. The conclusion is spectators can have a fine experience along the climb, they don't need to be right at the finish. Still, despite an excellent turnout, given the enormous popularity of cycling here, I'd expected many more. "I wanted to do a ride" wasn't really a reason, since spectating was quite compatible with riding that day.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:23 pm 
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Looking through the BMC Vuelta gallery, anyone know what tire this is? Doesn't Vittoria make a similar tire?Image


Those are Force/Attack tubulars. I have them on my ENVE 1.25's. They are good. Really good.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:53 pm 
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Mario Jr. wrote:

Those are Force/Attack tubulars. I have them on my ENVE 1.25's. They are good. Really good.

I figured the same. But why does the "Continental" label look like it was hastily printed on, overlapping the tread?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:59 pm 
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just like during the Risoul stage at Dauphiné:

how can Kiri not wear an undershirt during these cold stages?! :noidea:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/vuelta-a-esp ... tos/278877


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:53 am 
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ninjaman wrote:
Mario Jr. wrote:

Those are Force/Attack tubulars. I have them on my ENVE 1.25's. They are good. Really good.

I figured the same. But why does the "Continental" label look like it was hastily printed on, overlapping the tread?

They're probably the pro-only model that BMC have been using for most of the season.


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Assos jacket and Castelli gloves even kept Jani warm..

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:21 pm 
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jooo wrote:
ninjaman wrote:
Mario Jr. wrote:

Those are Force/Attack tubulars. I have them on my ENVE 1.25's. They are good. Really good.

I figured the same. But why does the "Continental" label look like it was hastily printed on, overlapping the tread?

They're probably the pro-only model that BMC have been using for most of the season.

Maybe. Or maybe they're something else disguised as Contis.


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prendrefeu wrote:
I like this thread. I imagine it like one big, massive sports bar (pub) that only shows races on the screens and we're just casually chatting it up about whatever race/pro related that is on our minds at the moment. Occassional good, meaty debates make it lively too. It's fun and it seems like it's going on forever.

Here, have a Lefe on me: :beerchug: :thumbup:


I agree, and I had one "bruine Leffe" yesterday, though I lost 6 kgs by drinking less beer :D

edit: about the Conti's: you can only see half of the tyre. The middle part has no thread.

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He's missing the best PRO accessory from Assos that everyone uses...neoprene gloves!


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