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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:29 pm
by micky
ultyguy wrote:Young Danish gun upsets the big boys, impressive....

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:29 pm
by Weenie

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:30 pm
by micky
Monkeyboy3333 wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/renshaw-uran-to-omega-pharma-quickstep
will be tell all next year for Cav with Renshaw heading to OPQS with Rigoberto. Get Bernie over too and he's all set.


They got this guy which was supposed to be the last man but with Renshaw back...what are they gonna do?

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"PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:31 pm
by ultyguy
Inrng reporting TJ Slagter to Garmin. Nice pick up from them, hope they turn him into the hilly classics monster he could be.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:47 pm
by HammerTime2
Levi lives?
On May 20, 2013, http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/leipheimer-confirms-im-retired wrote:"I'm retired," he told The Press Democrat in Santa Rosa having been invited to speak to the crowd at the finish of the Tour of California, a race he won three times. "It's just been an unceremoniously retired."
Yet
Regarding the July 13, 2013 race, http://www.tusharcrusher.com/2013-results wrote:PRO/OPEN MEN
Place Bib # Name Time Hometown Team
1 27 Levi Leipheimer 4:06:17 SANTA ROSA, CA Clif Bar
So was this as a Pro (mountain biker) or amateur? The race he won was listed as Pro/Open. And is he competing only in mountain biking ... or also road? What exactly is he retired from, or is he even still retired?

What's next, we'll find out he's racking up KOMs on strava ... perhaps with benefit of digital doping?

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:17 pm
by stella-azzurra
So to me open means to anyone.
If you look at the teams they are more like sponsors.
You might want to ask the guy from Competitive Cyclist.
The race seems to be set up like the Leadville 100.

The answer to road or MTB is here http://www.tusharcrusher.com/which-bike

He is retired from pro-cycling as you know it.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:50 pm
by petepeterson
What's the problem? if he wants to ride fondos, smash precious KOM's, or come back to pro racing like David Millar who cares? I'm not cheering for the guy but he's no different from DZ, VDV or Danielson. Do you have a problem with them racing this year? I feel like Levi got such a bad deal compared to those guys with respect to public/media backlash just because they are on garmin. Chapeau to JV I suppose for creating that team identity and managing the situation well.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:19 am
by djconnel
Example of how "attractivity" bonuses can reward riding slower:
http://djconnel.blogspot.com/2013/08/at ... ur-of.html

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:21 am
by jmilliron
Levi blew past me at a mtb race a couple months back (Boggs 8hr Endurance Race). He was on a coed team with a couple high school girls.

Dude's a midget.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:38 am
by boysa
Haha. A few years back he showed up and won Sea Otter. My wife was waiting for my race to finish so she happened to be there when he crossed the line. As I rolled across she said, "Wow, you should've seen this tiny little guy who won the Pro race. He was like one of those lawn jockeys!"

Didn't matter, I was still amazed.

"PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:33 am
by ultyguy
micky wrote:Nice sponsor.


Yup, was wondering if anyone was going to mention that. Guess it's probably the local branch?

However, CULT is a pretty cool team name too :-D

"PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:49 am
by Giant DK
Yes, Festina Denmark has always supported this Danish team.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:02 pm
by tymon_tm
djconnel wrote:Twitter:
Dan Martin ‏@DanMartin
I love tour of poland but 6man teams, italy start and silly attractivity classification deciding overall? #keepcyclingsimple #wrong


haha, now imagine how the crowd was confused when suddenly Majka lost his yellow jersey, given the fact he finished in the first group...

TdP was never that much entartaining race (mostly due to time bonuses, and the fact the route remained almost unchanged for years), but this year - it's like a contest for the worst idea.
the first two stages in Italy were, well, empty-crowded, and the initial idea of promoting Poland in Italy through this race is one of the dumbest i've ever heard...

second thing - tv broadcast is so dreadful it requires few shots of some strong alcohol prior to watching the race. there's like 1,5 cameras covering the whole race, and the commentators (on polish national tv - sadly i don't get eurosport here on vacation..) were most likely chosen randomly from the tv staff, as they don't have a clue about cycling whatsoever.

third - time bonuses. if the goal is to confuse spectators, like the poor tv coverage wasn't enough, they sure did great job. 30 seconds for an intermediate KOM? in a race where a gap between the overall winner and a runner up is usually less than 10 seconds? WTF? :noidea:

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:08 pm
by stella-azzurra
jmilliron wrote:Levi blew past me at a mtb race a couple months back (Boggs 8hr Endurance Race). He was on a coed team with a couple high school girls.

Dude's a midget.


boysa wrote:Haha. A few years back he showed up and won Sea Otter. My wife was waiting for my race to finish so she happened to be there when he crossed the line. As I rolled across she said, "Wow, you should've seen this tiny little guy who won the Pro race. He was like one of those lawn jockeys!"

Didn't matter, I was still amazed.


So if Levi is a midget what is Quintana?

TV skews the perception of size combined with the fact that these guys have absolute the lowest BMI per height and weight. Most of us are much bigger even though we are not representative of the average population weight. Someone 6"0 at 170 lb is still bigger then the average elite pro.

Believe me Quintana can pass for a 12 year old. And some 12 year old are bigger then Quintana.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:40 pm
by tymon_tm
Levi? two days ago i saw Thor up close for the first time in my life. both at the bike (after the finish) and on the podium. he looked like a miniature version of himself :unbelievable:

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:40 pm
by Weenie

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:20 pm
by ultyguy
Yup, when the 'big' guys are 75 kgs and 190cm, you know you're dealing with a very skinny population. Had the pleasure of riding next to Cancellara in a race earlier this year and he's about half the width he looks like on TV.