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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:51 pm 
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Just saying they didn't gut the entire team like Sky did....if Sky controlled the race yesterday like they did Saturday then the suspicions would be very high.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:22 pm 
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Not sure if this been posted before, but some numbers on the final climb saturday

Froome: 435W , 24'41"
Contador: 361W


Yes. If he was at 6.5W/Kg for 24 minutes. That would seem pretty consistent with an ftp of around 6.1/6.2W/Kg

Not sure why that's surprising.

If he rides Ventoux or the d'Huez double at 6.5, then we have a problem.

This explains it a bit. I'm not convinced it was super dirty, but rather a product of a perfectly executed stage and seizing control of the moment: http://veloclinic.tumblr.com/post/54770 ... rning-shot

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:38 pm 
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I actually like to think Porte is riding clean. Ive always liked his style of racing and being an australian my self I would hate to come to realize otherwise.

What I didnt like was his post race interview on stage 8 where he arrogantly downgraded Quintana and his tactics basically calling him an idiot with a "what was he thinking when he attacked?". If thats not disrespecting your adversaries I dont know what is.

As to my prior comments I would have thought Porte would have tried to minimize his losses after he lost touch to the main group. A top 10 finish would have been in his reach easily but I guess he's fully dedicated to Froome and not thinking of his personal ambitions. Those will probably wait for the vuelta. Hey he may even had team orders to take it easy.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:43 pm 
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strobbekoen wrote:
He was at 6.3 W/kg for 24 min
Contador 5.91


Didnt sports science say he did a low 23min with 6.5W/kg? Maybe they got it wrong

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:09 pm 
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Can we talk about Quitana now? Boy, he's flying! So far he's the only rider that ride with panache, and for that i think he deserve more attention, air time, column inches, etc etc.

Also I think he was actually able to attack and leave Froome on the final climb yesterday, but given there was a descent right after, best if he isnt attacking. After all he demonstrated a fairly poor descending skill in stage 8. i hope he wont lose much time at tomorrow's ITT.


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Life's really easy in the mountains for guys that are four foot tall and weigh the same as a packet of peanuts.

ITT's are somewhat more challenging for them - that's the joyous nature of the sport.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:24 pm 
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aerozy wrote:
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He was at 6.3 W/kg for 24 min
Contador 5.91


Didnt sports science say he did a low 23min with 6.5W/kg? Maybe they got it wrong


even if I like to do these simple calculations too, W/Kg from VAM is affected by many variables: http://blog.aeroweenie.com/2013/07/watt ... l?spref=fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; so there's always a part, not marginal, of error.

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Quintana can TT decently well too IIRC. He will probably win or podium a Vuelta reasonably soon.

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Where do you guys take the kg's for the riders from? C'mon... You should know better.
Shouting 6.3, 6.5 is pure... well, let's just say - not very smart.
To be accurate for the w/kg calculation you need precise FTP, wattage for the duration and weight of a rider. What you can be certain of is only a bike weight - 6.8 - 7.2 for most guys. The rest is pure speculation - and most of you seem to forget about it. When using "facts" bring the "facts" forward - not hearsay.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:02 pm 
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Maybe Porte is going to chug a bottle of Jack Daniels with his unborn twin tonight and then ride back into contention tomorrow in a suicide breakaway...

*totally tongue-in-cheek*


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Anyone know who the Garmin rider was that took out Kyrienka on that downhill section? What a bone head move.

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It was Kennaugh that was hit

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euan wrote:
It was Kennaugh that was hit


Right, got it. Seeing that Kennaugh is a big part of the Sky team, not much being made of that incident. Unlike when Greipal caused that crash, they went on and on about it and laying blame directly at him.

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I read it was Hesjedal who connected with Kennaugh. Wind must have caught them shades.


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I read it was Hesjedal who connected with Kennaugh. Wind must have caught them shades.

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