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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:58 pm 
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I think that VN article hits on a good point. The other riders need to stand up and say they're not starting tomorrow without King back in the race. Mostly the sprinters, or else a precedent may be set for their own exclusion later in the race.

On the flip side, GT managed to stay with Sky until the last km with the hairline fracture to his pelvis. Some serious Rule #5 going on there!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:18 am 
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I am sure I am the only one who thinks they should not let him ride, but then they can't let the sprinter finish either. UCI/ASO need to stop the is it a rule or not a rule BS.

How the F&^K can they measure if the seat is level, but not be 100% sure the transponder is there? I think it's amateur hour in those organization. I get making mistakes, but every year there is a "thing" and this only day 3?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:50 am 
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Sure it's a bad way to go out but why do people think King deserves to continue?

He missed the time cut. Pretty simple.


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Back to Gerro... super impressed with his comments on the OGE youtube vid where he continuously referred to "us" and "we" when speaking to the stage 3 victory. Love the humble attitude; seems like a genuine good guy to me!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:17 am 
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genesis692 wrote:
Sure it's a bad way to go out but why do people think King deserves to continue?

He missed the time cut. Pretty simple.


Actually, it doesn't sound like he even missed the time cut. Some serious bullshit going on.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:54 am 
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he's not French... so no slack for him :smartass: :roll: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:42 am 
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The judge for this Tour de France is Spanish, not French. Although the race is run by ASO (along with many of the other top races in the calendar), they do not run their races exclusive to one nationality.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:04 am 
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Out of time is out of time, that guy should go home and recover. no matter if it's 7 seconds or 0.5seconds. It's out of time, period. Otherwise change the rules for Le tour 2014. Rules for Le Tour 2013 can not be changed. So sorry, with sugar on top...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:16 am 
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Anyone know what shoes Simon Clarke has been wearing over the last couple days? I first thought they might be the Scott premium road models but the color scheme doesn't match. Earlier in the year he looked to be wearing Gearne shoes. Anyone have an idea :noidea:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:32 am 
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Liggero wrote:
Out of time is out of time, that guy should go home and recover. no matter if it's 7 seconds or 0.5seconds. It's out of time, period. Otherwise change the rules for Le tour 2014. Rules for Le Tour 2013 can not be changed. So sorry, with sugar on top...


This argument works only when the rules are applied consistently, which over the years at the Tour they have not.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:35 am 
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The issue is the rule is not evenly applied and it is full of loopholes.

From VN..
"At the 2011 Tour stage that finished atop the Galibier, won by Andy Schleck, Mark Cavendish was among an 88-rider group that finished more than 35 minutes back, well outside the 33:07 time"

Simple fix, let him ride this year and send the message/change the rule to 30% or out in 2014, no exceptions. But that is not good for the profits of ASO so that will never happen. They know that controversy makes/gets people watch and that is $$$$$.

I also think the team should make him the poster child for the team, and do everything to rub the ASO nose in to the ground, if he doesn't race, the officials can/won't change their mind it would make them look like fools.

There are twitter rumblings of a rider strike tomorrow, that might do it, but VN says this official is hard nosed so who knows.

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Jersland wrote:
Anyone know what shoes Simon Clarke has been wearing over the last couple days? I first thought they might be the Scott premium road models but the color scheme doesn't match. Earlier in the year he looked to be wearing Gearne shoes. Anyone have an idea :noidea:


have been wondering this also...


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If the cut-off rules are enforced hard and fast then eventually the race director will have to kick out somebody who they don't want to kick out which is bad for business. If the cut-off rules are removed or made to be less stringent then riders will take advantage of them (sure, clearing galibier is hard no matter what, but it's fractionally easier if you have an extra 10 minutes to do it so the grupetto will slow down) and it will get silly.

A bit of flexibility is ultimately ideal for everybody except the guy the organisers eventually flex their muscles upon...


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Jersland wrote:
Anyone know what shoes Simon Clarke has been wearing over the last couple days? I first thought they might be the Scott premium road models but the color scheme doesn't match. Earlier in the year he looked to be wearing Gearne shoes. Anyone have an idea :noidea:


have been wondering this also...


2014 Diadora Vortex Pro, same as Cadel & Intxausti


https://twitter.com/SimoClarke/status/3 ... 9651590145
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:44 am 
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Jersland wrote:
Anyone know what shoes Simon Clarke has been wearing over the last couple days? I first thought they might be the Scott premium road models but the color scheme doesn't match. Earlier in the year he looked to be wearing Gearne shoes. Anyone have an idea :noidea:


http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour-de-fran ... tos/271620" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

looks like he's wearing Diadora. Vortex Racer?

http://www.diadora.com/scarpe-e-accesso ... diadora_29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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