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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:40 am 
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Hard to miss the Wiggins incident, no?

Bike toss of the century :lol:

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And yet somehow I did...time to follow this thread a little more closely :-)

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Poor poker by cannondale. OPQS screwed it up and would've had GS on the front at like 750m if they hadn't swamped them with all of 3 guys which just allowed GS and MC to sit it, break left at 300 meters and make it look easy.


Couldn't agree more! Poor work by Cannondale considering OPQS really threw them a lifeline.


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I don't think Fabio Aru's performance can be considered not normal. He got quite a result at last year's Giro


2nd at GiroBio ain't comparable with a consistent performance in a (first) 3 weeks Tour, IMHO.

So Betancur's 5th is viewed by you in a similar light?


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Yeah I find myself very surprised on Betancur's performance. And he has been very consistent this season.

Gosh shall we start a gossip about how Betancur could be taking some performance enhancing drugs? :lol:


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No clue if Bentacur is on the sauce or not (really hope not) but he's been knocking on the door with some excellent results on the Italian circuit for the past couple of years. He certainly livens up races and knows where to attack, but he's not pulling off extraterrestrial raids or anything.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:52 am 
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You can't compare Betancur with some other pro who suddenly exploded at 27-28 years of age who cited unluck or strange african diseases for no performance in previous years; in his first year as pro he won Giro dell'Emilia which is a hell of a race.

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I think people see what they want to see.

In some ways, the guys riding for Astana have decided to ride on Vino's team, so they should be prepared to face the heat. They're just gonna have to suck it up on that one.

However, were Astana really that strong? They finished 5 minutes back on Sky in the team classification, and Sky were a leader down from the first week. I think that any team with their leader winning a grand tour is going to push that little bit harder. If you're going to get dropped on a climb and it matters not where you finish, you might as well let the wheel go at km 1 and ride up at your own pace. If you're trying to help your leader to a GT win, then you bury yourself for 5km and grind your way to the top.

As for Nibbles himself. His margin of victory is hardly surprising. All the main contenders pulled out. Evans said himself he came in with no prep. Scarponi hasn't been a contender since, well...

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You can't compare Betancur with some other pro who suddenly exploded at 27-28 years of age who cited unluck or strange african diseases for no performance in previous years; in his first year as pro he won Giro dell'Emilia which is a hell of a race.

Subtle :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:41 am 
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As for Nibbles himself. His margin of victory is hardly surprising.


And his VAM's and W/kg's were nothing spectacular.

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Whats all the suspicion pointed at Nibali (and Astana) for??
I wouldnt say he dominated the race.
He was essentially last man standing, and survived more of what mother nature could throw at him rather than taking on all comers and seeing them off..

There were no true explosive climbers present (Rodriguez etc)...
No true testers present that completed the race... Evans could be considered only average based on performances in the last few years, and had a bad TT by his own admission; Sanchez is certainly not at Nibali's level.

Everyone basically followed Nibali, waiting for him to falter. He didn't, so when do you win something by being behind someone?? I suspect he learnt from the tour last year to lead from the front.
Betancur i think, mainly grabbed time by scooting off at the end of a few stages rather than launching big attacks.
No one else really tried.

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So Betancur's 5th is viewed by you in a similar light?


Nope, Aru is a neo-pro, Betancur needed a better team than the previus ones and he's got some pro experiences and always showed he was a talent.

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Everyone basically followed Nibali, waiting for him to falter. He didn't, so when do you win something by being behind someone?? I suspect he learnt from the tour last year to lead from the front.
Betancur i think, mainly grabbed time by scooting off at the end of a few stages rather than launching big attacks.
No one else really tried.


I can't really blame the other riders. It was only ever likely to be a two horse race and one of those horses was shot in the first week. The abysmal weather surely wasn't going to encourage any heroic attacks from the remaining contenders and then when the two stages that could've resulted in genuine time gaps turned into only half a stage of climbing any possible GC fireworks were firmly snuffed out. Shame, because in another year it might have been epic but I don't think there's anyone to blame apart from the Winter That Wouldn't Die. :evil:


On a different note, does anyone think this might have been Cavendish's best ever grand tour? Obviously he's had some incredible TdF's against stronger rivals but given the strength of his team and the stage profiles he has been basically perfect at this Giro. The next best sprinter was 8th in the points table!


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