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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:14 am 
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dereksmalls wrote:
mike wrote:
Is Rigoburto Uran riding ax lightness 24 rims (non embossed) with Tune Mag 150 Hubs? last year, wiggins used tune mag 150 hubs, so it would not surprise me that Sky are using German parts. http://velonews.competitor.com/files/2013/05/720.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I own the Ax 24 rims with tune hubs and they are phenomenal. super strong.


Could be, or a prototype rim from someone else?


i checked again and compared my wheels with uran's. they look exactly the same except his don't have the embossed ax logo on them. the for sure look like he is using the 24 mm ax rims.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:45 am 
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Has anyone spotted video of Fabricio Ferrari being pushed off of his bike by another rider during Stage 5 of the Tour of Norway ?
(happened ~ 12km or so to the finish)

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:50 am 
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micky wrote:
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If anything Froome will join Julich at BMC


What about Van Garderen? My bet would be Froome to IAM if anywhere?


Froome isnt going anywhere at least until end of 2014.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/14951615" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As for TJ, an american up and coming GC contender riding for an american based team; why would he need to change?
Everybody seems happy about him, well, beside Cadel.

I think Evans has already shown that he's just as worthy of BMC leadership with his performance in the Giro. However TJ may certainly be fresher for the Tour and may be the smarter choice?.. That's for BMC to decide of course. I don't think either rider has shown they are an automatic favorite over the other IMO.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:07 am 
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The Mechov sudden retirement is starting to smell like a 'Galimzyanov fall on the sword' job. Inrng did a piece about the CAS hearing for Katusha and the ethical component of their license. Good read.

Edit- I have to admit that I'm glad it wasn't Basso. I was a bit worried after his sudden 'saddle sore' ahead of the Giro and quick Romandie departure.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:22 am 
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prendrefeu wrote:
Has anyone spotted video of Fabricio Ferrari being pushed off of his bike by another rider during Stage 5 of the Tour of Norway ?
(happened ~ 12km or so to the finish)

I saw that, very bizarre.

Ferrari rode up alongside a Belgian rider to remonstrate with him. Ferrari lifted his arm as if he was going to grab the guy. The Belgian then put his arm under Ferrari's and levered him off the bike. He fell heavily but seemed unhurt apart from his pride.

Sorry no video, watched it on Eurosport.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:25 am 
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jooo wrote:
I think Evans has already shown that he's just as worthy of BMC leadership with his performance in the Giro. However TJ may certainly be fresher for the Tour and may be the smarter choice?.. That's for BMC to decide of course. I don't think either rider has shown they are an automatic favorite over the other IMO.

I agree. Why not have both as protected riders. A crash, illness or mechanical can change everything.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:05 pm 
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prendrefeu wrote:
Has anyone spotted video of Fabricio Ferrari being pushed off of his bike by another rider during Stage 5 of the Tour of Norway ?
(happened ~ 12km or so to the finish)

I saw that, very bizarre.

Ferrari rode up alongside a Belgian rider to remonstrate with him. Ferrari lifted his arm as if he was going to grab the guy. The Belgian then put his arm under Ferrari's and levered him off the bike. He fell heavily but seemed unhurt apart from his pride.

Sorry no video, watched it on Eurosport.
They were both fined. In Norwegian here:
http://www.procycling.no/article3626550.ece

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:15 pm 
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Here's the video of the incident, which is linked in Kjetil's link.
http://www.tv2.no/play/sport/sykkel/albuet-rytter-i-asfalten-719859.html


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:40 pm 
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This would be called "bike rage"?

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:09 pm 
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1200 kroner is 200$ for deliberately shoving someone off the bike. Gosh...


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:10 pm 
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Nice racing in the giro today


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:28 pm 
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Without knowing the context, it looks awful, but without wanting to sound patriotic, this story was in Belgian newspapers and they said that Ferrari apologized for the incident to the Belgian rider. So there is more than just the images.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:20 pm 
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I apologize for going OT here, and possibly bringing up what seems like an annual conversation:

Time bonuses.

What do you think about stage time bonuses in a Grand Tour? Should the Tour de France bring them back?
What if time bonuses were also available mid-stage? Would a one-week stage race benefit from stage time bonuses, or would they hamper the competition?

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:05 pm 
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totally against time bonuses in one-week races. i admitt i don't follow them all, but for instance Tour de Pologne, despite having like 2-3 mountain stages is often won by seconds, thanks to said bonuses. and the most common strategy is: lets wait till finish and get the bonus seconds, instead of trying to break earlier and gaining some significant gap

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:53 pm 
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I'm just not convinced that time bonuses are beneficial to a Grant Tour. It seems like it decreases the likelihood a team is willing to make bold, tactical moves to generate time gaps (or gains). As you pointed out tymon_tm, it seems that many riders are just 'hanging in there' and grabbing crumbs instead of trying to steal an entire loaf.

Then again, it could be also due to what is left of this year's Giro: Evans isn't much to go on the attack and take big risks. Neither was Wiggins nor Hesjedal, but they're out anyway so there we are. Team wise, BMC, Sky and Garmin do not have a recognizable modus operandi in taking significant risks to make gains. Nibali is not only showing great form, his team is holding strong as well.

I would like to be surprised in the next few days to see if Sky is willing to take a risk for Uran.

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