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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:07 am
by Tapeworm
^ I am shocked at the lack of vitriol about this pic. Anyone would think there was some sort of double-standards around the place :roll:

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:33 am
by Leviathan
"post hoc, ergo propter hoc"

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:33 am
by Weenie

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:09 am
by Tapeworm
"Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potui."

And while we're at it...

"Quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur."

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:17 am
by ticou
I think VM lost it at Hem, 7.9km from the finish. Pointlessly led FC over the entire cobbled section, lack of patience when stalled on the track, and leading out too early. As if I could do any better.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:40 am
by Tapeworm
^ But VM recovered a bit on the track there, he got Fabian on the hip and dragged him up the banking - good! But then VM started the sprint from way out...no so good.

"PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:47 am
by DuncanS
prendrefeu wrote:Does anyone here know what some Radioshack riders were wearing on their wrists? A few of their riders were spotted wearing something on their wrists: one blue, one yellow. There was no consistency for which wrist (left, right) donned which colour.

:noidea:



Glad someone cleared that one up - I was thinking Livestrong/BikePure.

Conflicted.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:36 am
by ave
Fabian on more traditional length bibs than his teammate just behind. Anyone knows the cause of the trend for knee long shorts?
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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:24 pm
by ultyguy
Tapeworm wrote:^ But VM recovered a bit on the track there, he got Fabian on the hip and dragged him up the banking - good! But then VM started the sprint from way out...no so good.


I agree, he actually wasn't in that bad of a situation coming into the last corner. His mistake was starting the sprint too early and not at the last second where the banking was at it's steepest. Also keeping the sprint short would negate the advantage of the rider behind.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:29 pm
by HillRPete
Interesting that "domestique" Eisel is often the last man standing for Sky in those races. Says a lot about experience, I guess.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:55 pm
by LeePaton
wassertreter wrote:Interesting that "domestique" Eisel is often the last man standing for Sky in those races. Says a lot about experience, I guess.


Or the fact that EBH actually isn't that good.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:54 pm
by KWalker
Same for BMC with Hushovd. The fact that they still ride for him and Evans is kind of a joke. That team should have tons of firepower and their support riders often finish better than their stars.

I've said it already and I'll say it again, I think SVM rode pretty well except for the final sprint. I was timing the work each did and it was actually 50/50 and Fabian clearly couldn't get rid of him. If it wasn't 50/50 everyone would be chanting "wheel sucker", but cut the kid some slack considering how much better he rode than 98% of the "favorites"

Stybar looked the strongest out of all of them- he was my pick to win minus his bad luck. I don't think it was experience either- a bunch of riders got clipped by fans while in the gutter, however, his overshot turns were costly.

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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:58 pm
by nathanong87
djconnel wrote:Disagree. Pro cycling is about PR, generating good image of sponsors. You don't do that by being a wheel-sucking leech. Gerrans win @ MSR last year only disgusted me...did nothing to make me want a Scott. It's not just about winning...its about earning respect doing so as well.


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here's probably what happened with fabian 'oh boonen, u time trialed the last 50+ kms last year? ok this year i'll win a sprint in the velodrome'

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:13 pm
by koebes

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:14 pm
by Kjetil
ave wrote:Anyone knows the cause of the trend for knee long shorts?
The real Lance Armstrong legacy.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:14 pm
by Weenie

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:28 pm
by ave
>Stybar looked the strongest out of all of them
Maybe looked. But if he was really the strongest, he should have been able to close a 5-10second gap, no?
He was very clever to follow Fabian very closely everywhere. He even appeared to be fighting for his wheel with Vanmarcke one time just prior to his misfortune.
I was thinking maybe Stybar would have been displaced in the slight uphill attack, where Sep just about held on.
Or perhaps not, it's a real shame we didn't get to see that.