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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:38 am
by djconnel
Frank should have claimed it was a donation, not a payment.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:20 am
by dereksmalls
Why can't the judge overseeing this make a stand and just say "cheating is cheating no matter who you are, publish every name" Or give the names to WADA and let them deal with it on a global level. It just seems like they are protecting cheats for no reason.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:20 am
by Weenie

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:55 am
by Biff
Other sports federations are probably happy about the focus on cycling when it comes to doping.Cycling takes the heat everytime!.Football,athletics,cross country skiing etc....I bet cycling is cleaner than those sports.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:08 am
by djm
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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:22 am
by Ghastly
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/ ... ute/252135" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

can someone pretty please tell Vansummeren they invented helmets for cycling?!

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:44 am
by euan
Its training he can wear what he wants as long as its cycling specific. Looks like he wanted something warmer than a skullcal

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:25 pm
by manne
John Degenkolb's Felt.

Didn't know that "Oxeon" (a Swedish company) were involved in the bike business.
You might recognize the pattern from the Bauer icehockey sticks :smartass:


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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:49 pm
by Kjetil
Are those Shimano-branded HED rims?

That pattern looks very similar to the one on the new Campagnolo/Fulcrum rear disc wheel.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:08 pm
by manne
Kjetil wrote:Are those Shimano-branded HED rims?

That pattern looks very similar to the one on the new Campagnolo/Fulcrum rear disc wheel.


Looks like Dura Ace hubs.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:47 pm
by tymon_tm
wow, what a great timing

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/rem ... -his-death

so he was a 'talented rider', 'best climber', a winner. i've really no words to comment on this exquisite piece of journalism :thumbup:

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:03 pm
by majklnajt
keeping the hipocrisy alive...

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:30 pm
by HammerTime2
There should be a monument to Pantani ... at One Amgen Center Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA, USA - Amgen's corporate headquarters. He was one of their best customers.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:14 pm
by HillRPete
dereksmalls wrote:Why can't the judge overseeing this make a stand and just say "cheating is cheating no matter who you are, publish every name" Or give the names to WADA and let them deal with it on a global level. It just seems like they are protecting cheats for no reason.

IANAL but presumably there are pretty clear guidelines regarding the handling of evidence, that a judge is required to follow. People not indicted with the particular case typically have a right to have their identities protected, and this right needs to be weighted against other factors such as public interest etc. It's still a legal case in a proper court, so due process needs to be followed.

Seems in reality though, those names leak to the press more often than not anyway ...

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:29 pm
by KWalker
Doping or not he made racing more exciting than people bitching on a message board about doping.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:29 pm
by Weenie

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:52 pm
by kgt
+1