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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:24 pm 
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Yeah, thats because if it was a 'real race' they would not be allowed to start together. On the other hand: Terpstra, Froome, Gesink, Rodriguez, De Gendt, Kittel. Not your average grand fondo then, is it?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:25 pm 
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Even a middle of the road female pro would be able to ride anyone on this forum of their wheel.

That's the bottom line.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:26 pm 
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Also almost 1000 pages and 15000 posts!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:47 pm 
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wasabi1 wrote:
Even a middle of the road female pro would be able to ride anyone on this forum of their wheel.

That's the bottom line.
Adam Hansen, a.k.a. WW board member "zakeen", is on this forum, although he hasn't posted for a while. I'm guessing that he could more than hold his own against top women professionals. You have clearly exaggerated in order to make a point. There are clearly several other professional and amateur riders who aren't too shabby on this board. Could I be beaten by a middle of the road female professional? Yes, but I am hardly in the top echelon of board members.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:13 pm 
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6-7 years ago i'd trained on numerous occasions with pro female women that participated in international races. subjectively i was in great shape (although no racing for me) and those rides were pretty... relaxing.. or boring. if the weather was bad (like strong wind etc) i'd ride in front and still it wasn't very demanding.. nowadays chaps who are more in friends with female cyclists say it ain't that easy no more. despite women cycling being completely forgotten by media or major sponsors, they actually managed to improove like hell. the times of cruising behind gals and admiring ....ermm... landscape are probably long gone

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:16 pm 
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Also almost 1000 pages and 15000 posts!


Speaking of which, should there be a new thread after this one hit's 1000 pages?
Perhaps a "PRO" Cycling Discussion part II?
It would make sense as it sort-of-coincides with the 2013 Road season starting off. Even though "Pro" covers more than just road, more than just men, and so on, the discussions are mostly centered around the Road season.

Thoughts?

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Boys, boys, boys. Some of you make US look like asses.

Here are the Olympic TT results:

1 Kristin Armstrong (USA) 37:34.82
2 Judith Arndt (GER) 37:50.29
3 Olga Zabelinskaya (RUS) 37:57.35
4 Linda Villumsen (NZL) 37:59.18
5 Clara Hughes (CAN) 38:28.96
6 Emma Pooley (GBR) 38:37.70
7 Amber Neben (USA) 38:45.17
8 Ellen van Dijk (NED) 38:53.68
9 Trixi Worrack (GER) 39:20.73
10 Lizzie Armitstead (GBR) 39:26.24

Armistead rode the 18 mile course at an average clip of about 27.37 mph for tenth place. Who here can go faster? If you could break into the top ten post your data and then talk shit. Until then...

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I dont get some of you. A vo2 max (5min) of 6.6W/kg puts Vos at the beginning of the mens "domestic pro" bracket. Is that bad? How many of you have a 5min better then hers? Geeez my best is only 6.2 and I thought that wasnt bad. I remember seeing some power values from the 2012 tour of california, a certain rider with an american national jersey was doing 10mins off the front of the peloton at 330watts (light rider). In my view with a 5min power like that Vos could at her best do well in a mens race.

An FTP of 6.5 is according to science of sport the maximum an un-doped human being could possibly reach. We are talking about guys like Wiggins, Froome, Contador at the height of their form. So hats off to Vos!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:23 pm 
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Since this discussion is getting boring, and while we're at it.

Vos TCX :mrgreen:

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Is that vos'?

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Cancel that, didn't read properly.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:29 pm 
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I dont get some of you. A vo2 max (5min) of 6.6W/kg puts Vos at the beginning of the mens "domestic pro" bracket. Is that bad? How many of you have a 5min better then hers? Geeez my best is only 6.2 and I thought that wasnt bad. I remember seeing some power values from the 2012 tour of california, a certain rider with an american national jersey was doing 10mins off the front of the peloton at 330watts (light rider). In my view with a 5min power like that Vos could at her best do well in a mens race.

An FTP of 6.5 is according to science of sport the maximum an un-doped human being could possibly reach. We are talking about guys like Wiggins, Froome, Contador at the height of their form. So hats off to Vos!
Are womens races as competitive as the mens, i.e. is it easier for a very talented rider like Vos to dominate the womens race, than an equally talented man to dominate mens races?


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Interesting but does it matter if women are slower then men? Take Tour of Qatar with attacking, people who tries and succeeded like Kirsten Wild. All in all 2,5h racing. Then the men with Mark Cavendish having a team to just keep the speed up and we miss the hole attacking part or a small group getting loose in the wind to fight about the win.

Was watching the womens world cup in Vårgårda 2010 from a car. Never seen better road racing. Riders where trying and exciting racing for sure. Marianne Vos did an impressive attack on last lap but didn't succeed.

So no matter about speed or if some thinks the level are low, awesome racing that doesn't lasts forever like long races for the men. Ronde van Vlaanderen for example where the women races the last part with cobble stone sections and don't race the more boring first part the men races.

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