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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:15 pm
by Franklin
KWalker wrote:Cyclist stats often seem made up.

Yes they are...

I remember meeting Jan Ulrich in march 2002. The press was calling him fat... yet I was looking at a guy who looked like he hadn't eaten in years :noidea:

I guess he looked a bit healthier than Ricco/Chicken, but the whole hooplah about his overweight was bogus.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:15 pm
by Weenie

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:43 pm
by artray
Ulrich used to let is weight go in the off season . He did get pretty fat at times . The day before he got ousted out of the tour with Basso he looked In the best shape of his life . A shame we did not get to see him race that year.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:32 pm
by stella-azzurra
He would of come in 2nd?

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:59 pm
by artray
Dam and blast that cad of a scoundrel Armstrong fellow .

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:06 pm
by stella-azzurra
Armstrong was not riding it then.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:51 pm
by KWalker
Re saddles, lots of BMC riders are not using Fizik saddles, some just cover it up better than others. When I pointed this out on the BMC FB they got a bit crabby. I've noticed Gilbert, TP, and quite a few domestiques that are actually on Selle Italia's with Fizik logos

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:41 pm
by Franklin
artray wrote:Ulrich used to let is weight go in the off season . He did get pretty fat at times . The day before he got ousted out of the tour with Basso he looked In the best shape of his life . A shame we did not get to see him race that year.


Considering I met him off season I take this one as folklore and part of the Psychologic warfare of LA. Most of the photographic evidence is high excertion and unflattering.

Here we have a nice example: 2005 =>

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A rotund michelin man!

And yet....

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Same guy, a few days earlier... MAGIC ;)

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:59 pm
by Franklin
Here's a nice one from Giro 2006

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Or imagine the lovely comments shortly before the Giro 2006:

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Yet we also know that in 2006 he wasn't overweight.... quite frankly, photographic evidence on Jan's weight is unreliable as other shots in the same race show him in much better shape. Jan's TT position simply makes him look fat.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:11 pm
by jmilliron
Diaphragmatic breathing and unflattering jerseys.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:12 pm
by petepeterson
LOL maybe the new Italian generation is not as well prepared (by Conconi) as you were Moser....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/moser-n ... a-champion" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:13 pm
by petepeterson
I have the same issue with my damn huge diaphragm!

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:07 pm
by stella-azzurra
Same issue here. My rib cage is larger than normal. Usually found in mesomorphs

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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:48 pm
by KWalker
This should settle the powermeter debate once and for all and, what a surprise, TvG reiterates what I said all along:

VN: What role do power meters play at that moment of the race? Is everyone just racing off their power meters once they’re on the big climbs, knowing that they can push a power threshold for a certain distance, and measure their tactics off that?
TvG: No, people do not race off their power meters. People know their bodies. If I am at my limit, I am breathing hard, my heart rate is through the roof, I am struggling to stay on the wheel, why would you attack? That would be the stupidest thing. You just try to stay where you are. That’s how it was. They had everyone on the ropes to the point where there was nowhere to go. You either stayed on the wheel, or you even drop off the wheel and try to limit your losses. That’s what everyone was doing. It came to a point when even Nibali, who was third, had to drop off of Sky’s pace and Wiggins and Froome just rode away.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:00 pm
by btompkins0112
Franklin wrote:
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You had to post the gratuitous "fatty reaching for the feed bag" shot! It is probably stuffed with Ho Ho's and Zebra Cakes!

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:14 pm
by majklnajt
I wonder if all of those favourites were using the weight/height formula... 0,36-0,38 kg/cm

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:14 pm
by Weenie