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Antoine
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by Antoine on Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:26 am
nickl wrote:So far MTM-Qhubeka have hired Boasson Hagan, Farrar and Goss (and Theo Bos).
This was supposed to be a joke, not a recruitment strategy.
that's rather an interesting bet, the joke would have been hiring the Schleck brothers.
Boasson Hagan and Bos are performing quite well but could do better
Farrar must change his role because he can't win in big races anymore because too many good sprinters today. Like Benati did.
Goss is a mystery.
Look at R.Sicard
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sicards ... -potential , next year he can make a top ten in a grand tour.
he was U23 world champion and did nothing during his years at Euskastel.
He had some king of injuries but it didn't explain it completely.
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pastronef
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worstshotever
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by worstshotever on Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:42 pm
ultimobici wrote:worstshotever wrote:These are the blocking ladies from lady giro, no?
And what on earth has that to do with it? Presumeably some sort of twisted idea of karma?
FFS!
Relax. I don't believe I suggested anything of the sort.
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KWalker
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by KWalker on Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:09 pm
Antoine wrote:nickl wrote:So far MTM-Qhubeka have hired Boasson Hagan, Farrar and Goss (and Theo Bos).
This was supposed to be a joke, not a recruitment strategy.
that's rather an interesting bet, the joke would have been hiring the Schleck brothers.
Boasson Hagan and Bos are performing quite well but could do better
Farrar must change his role because he can't win in big races anymore because too many good sprinters today. Like Benati did.
Goss is a mystery.
Look at R.Sicard
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sicards ... -potential , next year he can make a top ten in a grand tour.
he was U23 world champion and did nothing during his years at Euskastel.
He had some king of injuries but it didn't explain it completely.
With Sicard and Goss my guess is that, at some point, their "recovery" slowed. With the rest there are tangible explanations, but in some cases when a rider makes a huge U23 splash then sucks when they're on the bio passport its obvious why.
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erty65
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by erty65 on Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:21 am
No need to quote above
So EBH has sucked the last few years because he stopped using PEDs when he went to Sky?
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erty65 on Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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nickl
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by nickl on Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:11 am
KWalker wrote:Antoine wrote:nickl wrote:So far MTM-Qhubeka have hired Boasson Hagan, Farrar and Goss (and Theo Bos).
This was supposed to be a joke, not a recruitment strategy.
that's rather an interesting bet, the joke would have been hiring the Schleck brothers.
Boasson Hagan and Bos are performing quite well but could do better
Farrar must change his role because he can't win in big races anymore because too many good sprinters today. Like Benati did.
Goss is a mystery.
Look at R.Sicard
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sicards ... -potential , next year he can make a top ten in a grand tour.
he was U23 world champion and did nothing during his years at Euskastel.
He had some king of injuries but it didn't explain it completely.
With Sicard and Goss my guess is that, at some point, their "recovery" slowed. With the rest there are tangible explanations, but in some cases when a rider makes a huge U23 splash then sucks when they're on the bio passport its obvious why.
Goss won MSR on the bio passport. That's a pretty decent result.
I don't think everything is always to do with drugs. Sometimes cyclists just perform shit.
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hna
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by hna on Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:28 pm
erty65 wrote:No need to quote above
So EBH has sucked the last few years because he stopped using PEDs when he went to Sky?
No way EBH is doping. To me it seems like he has lost his winner mentality. He did well for Team Sky in 2011, but it looks like he settled for a domestique role and a comfortable wage after that. He has also been riddled with crashes and injuries this season.
Team Sky might also be at fault. They seem to suck at developing their young and promising riders.
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KWalker
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by KWalker on Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:31 pm
erty65 wrote:No need to quote above
So EBH has sucked the last few years because he stopped using PEDs when he went to Sky?
First of all he hasn't completely sucked at Sky. He was good his first 2, maybe 3 years. He went from classics rider to pacing Wiggo up climbs. Different change in roles and no real support for his classics/sprinting ambitions. Looking at his wiki he really only has not won a major race in the last two years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edvald_Boasson_HagenPlus as others have pointed out Sky is terrible at actually developing riders. Especially for sprints/classics.
Yes, Goss won MSR on the passport when it was still early on in the passport process. It takes years of data if the rider is microdosing or using modern techniques for anything to look awry (from what I understand).
Goss went from full gas to nothing. Literally nothing of note. Very different even from Farrar who went from occasionally winning here and there to a bunch of 2nd places when he didn't crash.
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KWalker on Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
