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by pastronef

Garmin will use S3 for the northern classics

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but I guess they keep their R3 for Roubaix

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pastronef wrote:Garmin will use S3 for the northern classics

but I guess they keep their R3 for Roubaix


More than likely the Mud version of the R3

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by wingguy

petepeterson wrote:I have a really difficult time believing that Merida or any of the other manufacturers for that matter are producing custom molds for these guys.


Peter Sagan's Synapse. Custom geometry beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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His Evo is too, but the Synapse is a better example as it's impossible to argue against. Just look at it! :P

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by deek

It really depends on how the frame is constructed whether it's custom geometry is plausible or not. Not all frames are monocoque like the ones from the mold petepeterson posted. Ones like those are definitely not likely to be made custom since it would require an entirely new mold which is not cheap. Different layups are entirely possible no matter the manufacturing process and most big name pro frames are probably different than what you can buy.

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deek wrote:Ones like those are definitely not likely to be made custom since it would require an entirely new mold which is not cheap.
Well, if Sagan's salary is about 4 million euros per year http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cannondale-set-to-team-up-with-tinkoff-in-2014, and good results by him are valuable to the team owner and sponsors, then maybe a custom monocoque is worth it, if it improves his chance of good performances.

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by KWalker

Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold. Apparently a few other Cannondale riders used it when the SS first came out.

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by nealrab

Still wish they'd change the C'dale color...I know Sagan is partial to green, but maybe a more subdued shade...

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by genesis692

KWalker wrote:Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold. Apparently a few other Cannondale riders used it when the SS first came out.


Didn't Bennati finish up with Cannondale before the Evo was released? It's possible that they rode the same geometry, but it wouldn't be the same mold.

The actual cost of producing a new mold isn't as prohibitively expensive as people might think.

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nealrab wrote:Still wish they'd change the C'dale color...I know Sagan is partial to green, but maybe a more subdued shade...

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Sagans is a 58tt with the head tube of the 54cm. Custom tube to tube.


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genesis692 wrote:
KWalker wrote:Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold. Apparently a few other Cannondale riders used it when the SS first came out.


Didn't Bennati finish up with Cannondale before the Evo was released? It's possible that they rode the same geometry, but it wouldn't be the same mold.

The actual cost of producing a new mold isn't as prohibitively expensive as people might think.


I think people get hung up on what mold's used to cost before CNC machines and advancements in CAM software. Mold's are getting pretty darn cheap compared what they used to be when they were made on manual mills.

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by jooo

Sarto (and probably a bunch of others) do T2T 'replicas', to suit pro's who want custom geo...

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by wingguy

KWalker wrote:Sagan's mold is the same as Bennati's old mold.


Do you mean geometry?

It's not the same mold because it's not the same frame.

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nealrab wrote:Still wish they'd change the C'dale color...I know Sagan is partial to green, but maybe a more subdued shade...
Cannondale green is lovely. I wish they would release all green frames to the general public. Green Inc. :mrgreen:
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