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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:25 pm 
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Wiggins not going to the Tour to win it and show respect to the yellow jersey is weak as piss.
The fat lady hasn't sung yet, and Froome may be no Lemond, but let's see whether Wiggins does an Hinault to Froome. Of course, they may both be wasted by others in the field.


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Because he won't even show up :lol:

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Could another perfect-storm scenario exist for Paris-Roubaix? Maybe.

The answer's a categorical NO. Ultimately, the strongest rider on the day wins at Roubaix because it's the one race where team tactics play very little part in the outcome. Wiggins, no. He's not a classics rider.

Was Van Summeran the strongest when he won? I doubt it, but tactics played a big part. At least Wiggins has raced P-R before and not done too badly.

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One of the few times you could say it was tactical when Van Summeren won? Yes, maybe, but not for the usual reasons. Cancellara was the strongest that day, but refused to tow Hushovd along. That's when Van Summeren disappeared up the road. Then we had Hushovd whinging about the others when he only had himself to blame. He deserved what he got, nothing.

As for Wiggins winning. I'll give a 100 pounds to charity if he wins P-R. I just can't see it.


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Probably the biggest reason Wiggo won't win P-R is that there's no one else in his team who has the firepower in the classics to make anyone think twice. Sky's pathetic attempt to pull back Boonen last year was a joke :laughat: SKY

edit- I will say that I was watching the 2011 RVV highlights the other day while on the rollers and Thomas rode super strong (obv absent last season in the classics). Will be interesting to see how he gets on this year.


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As for Wiggins winning. I'll give a 100 pounds to charity if he wins P-R.
To the Lance Armstrong Foundation (a.k.a. Livestrong), heh, heh?


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and now Bobby Jullich admits to using EPO... wowzer


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Following the doping scandal of the 1998 Tour, only 96 of 189 riders completed the race, and Bobby Julich finished third on the podium with winner Marco Pantani and runner-up Jan Ullrich. It became clear later that Julich was the highest placed rider not using performance enhancing drugs during the 1998 race and is thus the de facto if not the official winner.
I made the decision to use EPO several times from August 1996 until July of 1998.
Yes, such clarity of Julich being the highest placed rider not using performance enhancing drugs during the 1998 TdF.

Edit: As of the time of my quoting from the Wikipedia page, there was mention of Julich's doping confession and sacking by Sky. Now the Wikipedia page has been changed to eliminate the sentence "It became clear later that Julich was the highest placed rider not using performance enhancing drugs during the 1998 race and is thus the de facto if not the official winner." So I guess even later it became clear that that was not the case.


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And now SKY won't fire him because he's a huge reason why Porte, Drombowski and co have come to SKY....and Brailsford 'softens' his stance. :hmm:


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And now SKY won't fire him because he's a huge reason why Porte, Drombowski and co have come to SKY....and Brailsford 'softens' his stance. :hmm:

Looks like they have made him resign. If true I think it is counter productive as it will discourage others from coming forward.
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And now SKY won't fire him because he's a huge reason why Porte, Drombowski and co have come to SKY....and Brailsford 'softens' his stance. :hmm:
What is the source for your statement?

Team Sky can confirm that Bobby Julich has left the team after two seasons as Race Coach.


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Interesting what Julich says about his time at Bjarne's gig. Riis is a smart man. Why didn't YOU think of utsourcing, Johan? :mrgreen:

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And now SKY won't fire him because he's a huge reason why Porte, Drombowski and co have come to SKY....and Brailsford 'softens' his stance. :hmm:

I'd eliminate one of those names if you want to be accurate, and its not the Tasmanian's

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At this rate no one will be working at Sky. :lol:

A lot of spots opening up and some of you arm chair director sportifs might want to send in your resume. :smartass:

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Bobby Julich wrote:
That being said, what happened before the 2006 Tour de France changed my outlook into what we all thought we were buying into when we joined that team.


Can someone remind me what happened before the 2006 TdF related to CSC?

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