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 Post subject: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:39 pm 
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Has anyone got experience with a retül bike fit?

I read that one can safe up to 20 wats. I don't feel uncomfortable on my set up but I would really like to optimize it for me. I think I should first spend my money for the correct bike fit before upgrading parts. Or is this a complete waist of money?

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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:12 pm 
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i really think it depends on the Retul fitter. the one i went to wasn't great and moved my seat way upwards way past where it should've been. i've also heard that issue with others on Retul. i was interested in the Guru system...although i haven't found one in my area yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:36 am 
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+1 on that kode54. I had exactly the same experience, the guy didn't have a clue. Very poor service indeed.

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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:07 am 
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I went to a Retul master fitter, and it was a very good experience. I was fitted on a DFU machine, which was another great tool. What I got out of it was a lot better comfort and no more knee pain.


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:03 am 
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My experiance was very positive. Retul is just a mesurment system really so a lot comes down to the skill/ knowledge of the guy fitting you.


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:05 am 
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Yes check your fitter first. I had static fitting before dynamic retul a year later by the same guy. My position post retul barely needs adjustment which means the the fitter really got it right the first time without retul machine aid.


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:25 am 
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Ok cool, Thanks for the replies. I can't find any reviews of the Retül fitter in my area (Zürich) so I think I'll visit 3d Bike fitters in San Francisco in summer vacation. On Yelp he has a lot of good reviews. Very looking forward to hear what an expert says. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:44 pm 
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kode54 wrote:
i really think it depends on the Retul fitter. the one i went to wasn't great and moved my seat way upwards way past where it should've been. i've also heard that issue with others on Retul. i was interested in the Guru system...although i haven't found one in my area yet.


"where it should've been" => who said where it should be?

If you talk about pain happening at such height, it doesn't mean it's a bad fit.
Retul can make huge changing which will need a large period of adapatation. The muscles will work differently so it needs patience to rebuild the muscles and a lot of stretching.

PS: I have no interest defending them but just don't understand the "where it should have been"


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:05 pm 
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I did one this year. More or less happy. Huge increase in seat height and when I asked some questions on here other had said the same. It does seem to have solved my problem but I don't think I am any faster.


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:03 pm 
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I think Taaramae underwent a Retul fitting.

Report says he was 3cm higher and a couple of cm morr forward comparef to his pro start.

This way of fitting higher and closer to the BB axle is definitely a theory, it is not about finding the contact point where you feel comfortable...


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:21 pm 
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It wasn't a retul bike fit but it was one of the top fit shops in SF.( they were doing a retul fit at the same time) It was a good learning experience for me and worth the money just for the experience. I have moved the bike almost back to it's original state.

My point of view is that the 4 or 5 hours on the trainer is not close enough to real riding. I think you are better off buying the software you want and getting real video of you riding. I also think as you get better, you will want to change your fit and having the tools to test and verify your fit over and over again is a good idea.

I think that you do it yourself, or with your local club

here is one

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there a 4 or 5 more..


Yes this is crazy talk ; )

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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:31 pm 
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uraqt,

my experience with the Retul wasn't the best...and based on my leg extension, i was way too high. yeah, maybe i was pulling larger power numbers, but over the long term, i wouldn't last longer than a 1 hour ride on a trainer in the real world. my fitter was a hack and looking at numbers and not really knowing how to fit in a traditional manner...but i wanted to try the Retul and he was the only guy within my area radius of 25 miles. Retul is a tool, the fitter should know how to fit regardless of the tools he has just by looking to start.

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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:19 pm 
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i think you are the best fitter for a bike. you know what works and what doesn't work. you know what feels good and what hurts after a ride.


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:44 pm 
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mike wrote:
i think you are the best fitter for a bike. you know what works and what doesn't work. you know what feels good and what hurts after a ride.


People that asks for a bike fitting generally feel bad on the bike, uncomfortable, or the kind of guy that will lower his saddle 5mm from one day to the next just because he had a bad day and felt crap :mrgreen:

When I was in racing shape I didn't ever care for my position, it all felt natural,

After I stopped racing and training, and went back to riding, I had not touched my bike/contact points but I was feeling so crap I blamed the position and wanted to call for a change :mrgreen: Didn't buy me a fitting though because it was a lot of money for not having the good legs :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Retül bike fit
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i read online about a guy who did the retul fit ($250 cost) and ended up with basically no change in his position. i think saddle went down slightly but not by much...


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