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Tapeworm
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by Tapeworm on Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:24 pm
markc wrote:...In the context of this thread, if one has a bloddy syringe and access to current forensic techniques, along with DNA samples from the likely matches, then it is a trivial process to determine whose blood is on the syringe. The rest of the discussion is a legal one...
Unfortunately the legal process is hardly trivial. The machinations of lawyers would make the above description of DNA seem positively basic. Forensics are childplay.
"Physiology is all just propaganda and lies... all waiting to be disproven by the next study."
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markc
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by markc on Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:08 pm
prendrefeu wrote: Thanks for correcting me Mark!
Happy to add. You point was well taken and it's cool that you were looking at the biology technologies in play. The details don't actually matter in this context but I had time to type a bit
Tapeworm - exactly the point, glad you agree. The science here is actually easy (for a change) but proving a bloody syringe is a doping offense is not. My guess is this will be all sound and fury yet again. I hope to be wrong.
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Tinea Pedis
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by Tinea Pedis on Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:00 am
Great reply there markc - however I will have to disagree with you about the drugs threads.
Yes, this is weenies. However it's also a cycling forum and as such doping threads, when they do not get tedious and personal, I think have a place on here. They offer a very interesting insight into a practice that is sadly still synonymous with our sport and allow us to chew the fat on what (when they do ever turn out to be positive) becomes invariably headline material.
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J-Nice
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by J-Nice on Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:51 pm
The way Bruyneel worded his statement has no bearing on the fact that he is confident there is nothing this nonsense.
I for one believe him. This guy's been around for years-he has ridden for successful teams and has managed successful teams. He has way too much at stake to make a silly mistake like leaving discarded medical equipment in the form of syringes, needles and the like somewhere where they could be found.
Plus, I know for a fact the UCI will NOT release the blood profiles of ANY of the Astana riders who rode in last year's Tour.
If anything, this crap is going to drag out until after Armstrong retires and possibly has his 8th Tour in the bag. By then it won't matter to him, and he will be free to spin his way out of whatever the fallout is. All Bruyneel would have to do is retire and it will be case closed for him also. He certainly has made enough money in pro cycling that he can leave the sport without having to work another day in his life.
It will only matter to any of the implicated riders still racing at that point, like Contador.
I give this investigation a shelf life of 2.5 to 3 years, when by then no one in the media will care.
