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What's the next part to be made from carbon fiber?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:48 pm
by JackLawrenceXXX
It's only a matter of time before the next part becomes made from carbon Fiber... I am sure the day carbon cranks came out, everyone gasped... and now they are common....

I was thinking brake calipers like AX Lightness might become common someday.... (crossing fingers and hoping prices cut in half)

Carbon Fiber cogset?

Carbon Bottom Bracket Spindle?

Carbon Fiber chain component... like side plates?

How much stronger can carbon get?

What's the next part to be made from carbon fiber?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:48 pm
by Weenie

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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:41 pm
by gumgardner
Tires.

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:21 pm
by beatnik
No more carbon, we are back to steel framesets . :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:30 pm
by Rasmus
Juanmoretime wrote:Cog set has already been done. Although the only one I have ever seen was on Vic from M2Racer's 7 lb bike.


If I'm not mistaken, you can blame Jason from FWB and Fibre-Lyte for that one. I seem to remember FL also making some carbon sprockets for the trial nutters.

The carbon casettes work - just not for very long.

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:22 pm
by JackLawrenceXXX
Anyone have a picture of that 7 pound bike... M2racer's THAT I gotta see!

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:29 pm
by synchronicity
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I would say it's all been done already. Possibly carbon brakesets as they are a structural component which could benefit by being more rigid with vibration damping qualities (reducing brake chatter I imagine). I doubt we'll see carbon cogs and chainrings on mainstream bikes because of the wear rate issue.

For me the ultimate parts would be made by nanotechnology. Imagine manufacturing a component in which the addition of every atom, molecule or chemical bond was in a controlled environment. First and foremost, it would result in zero defects, which we all know is a good thing. That's where the future is at in my opinion.

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:37 pm
by collideous
House keys!

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:14 pm
by bcheung
Carbon QR's?

How about carbon water bottles?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:15 pm
by madcow
I don't remember when we built that bike, I think it was 04 or 05. Funny to think that some of that stuff is heavy by todays standard and we could probably build something like that but a pound lighter.

Both myself and Stephen from Fibre Lyte have built and ridden carbon cassettes, while it isn't something you'd want to build for sale, it was a functional piece. You can read our discussions about it here: http://fairwheelbikes.com/forum/viewtop ... =42&t=4134

I was going to attach more pictures of the bike but I forgot that you can't attach in this section of the forum. I can email them if you like.

bcheung wrote:Carbon QR's?



Tune has some to be released shortly: http://tune.de/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=192

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:32 pm
by bcheung
madcow wrote:Tune has some to be released shortly: http://tune.de/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=192


I can't tell from the picture... are the shafts carbon?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:29 pm
by gumgardner
Innertubers.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:24 am
by J-Nice
Before we get ahead of ourselves, why don't we worry about making carbon products(seatposts, saddles and cranks) that don't crack under normal, everyday use?

And how about a set of carbon brakes that incorporate the benefits of lighter weight, stiffness and stopping power equal or greater than their heavier brethren from Shimano and Campagnolo without the compatibility/installation issues?

I think its' time some of these manufacturers step up to the plate and attempt to mimic the quality that is already on offer instead of making lightness the end all and be all.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:27 am
by bobbyOCR
I thought carbon can't get stronger, as it's still elementally carbon?

I guess the moulding processes and resin will become more efficient and yield a higher strength to weight.

So ultimately, I'll guess that we won't see many new parts made out of carbon, but the existing parts will gradually become lighter.

I was also under the impression that given an unlimited budget, parts could be made signifcantly lighter than they are now. So I guess all we have to wait for is the moulding techniques to drop in price.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:40 am
by Sprinter
Valves? It seems we try to make lighter and lighter tyres, then always finish them off with a heavy steel valve.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:40 am
by Weenie

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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:50 pm
by Craigagogo
Maybe a treatment or manufacturing process that makes carbon composite incredibly resistant to shear forces...say goodbye to all your Ti and Al fastening parts!