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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:34 pm 
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It's true, the man is back with team telekom, T-Mobile will be there official name for 2004. Ah yes, the good old days are comming back. Ullrich is gonna crush Armstrong next year! The only reason Armstrong even won this years tour was because he had the best team money could buy. If you exclude the team time trial from the race Ullrich would have beaten Armstrong by over a minute! This is the year that Ullrich will win the TDF!!! 8) :lol: :wink:

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I know it's off topic, but I just wanted everyone to know.


Funny how things work out. A :lol: nice look back into history


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The only sad thing about Ullrich's demise is the demise of that Myspace page about him.


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The only sad thing about Ullrich's demise is the demise of that Myspace page about him.


+1

That page was awesome


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:55 pm 
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I gotta say, and I might get killed here, but Jan was my favourite rider of the Grand Tours over the past few years - doped or not.

The guy was a great combination of classy (waiting for Lance after he crashed due to that famour swinging feed bag) and human (the failed drug test for ecstasy - hehe).

He was a beast, yet a vulnerable one. TT'd like a locomotive, but descended like he was afraid to crash.

Perfect example was the year (04, I think), that he almost beat Lance in spite of his vastly inferior Bianchi team, only to crash in the final TT.

More than anything, he was the only one with enough balls and talent to scare Big Tex himself - without Jan, cycling would have been BORING during Lance's dominance.

Since EVERYONE seems to have been doping, I can't really stay angry at my boy Jan. I actually got excited when I saw the title, thinking he was back! Oh well - guess I'll go throw on the T-Mobile kit and go for a ride.


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@Cippoforlife: you cant image how much your words are just the same ones I got in my mind!


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Cippo, that was one of the nicest posts ever to be written about Big Jan!

Well done.

We miss you Ulle!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:01 pm 
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CippoForLife wrote:
The guy was a great combination of classy (waiting for Lance after he crashed due to that famour swinging feed bag)


I enjoyed watching the battles too, but I do remember Lance doing an interview after that stage and he said that Jan was not waiting for him and he thought Jan attacked when he went down. OLN seemed to skew it that way as well from what I remember.
I am not for or against Lance or Jan, just curious how other viewers from elsewhere in the world saw that unfold.

By the way, I would not have waited for him.


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Great post CippoForLife!! My thoughts exactly.

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Gregorio wrote:
CippoForLife wrote:
The guy was a great combination of classy (waiting for Lance after he crashed due to that famour swinging feed bag)


I enjoyed watching the battles too, but I do remember Lance doing an interview after that stage and he said that Jan was not waiting for him and he thought Jan attacked when he went down. OLN seemed to skew it that way as well from what I remember.
I am not for or against Lance or Jan, just curious how other viewers from elsewhere in the world saw that unfold.

By the way, I would not have waited for him.


Jan waited. Period.


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Yeah, that was a great tour. I watched it on ZDF or Eurosport I think and he definitely waited, he was looking back the whole time and being passed by lots of other riders. Ah, the good old times...

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Jan waited. Period.


+1, he waited. Jan was my favorite rider over the past 8 years as well, and I always looked so forward to the battle in July between him and Armstrong. The tour is boring without them, IMHO.


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Jan did wait after Tyler Hamilton came up and reminded Jan of Lance waiting for him when he had run off course. Not before on his own accord though. I believe that the team car was telling him to keep going.


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Everyone knows that History is written by the winners not the losers. What does it matter the only one of the 2 who has any credibility now is Armstrong or do people think that the one year Ullrich was most dangerous was a year he was clean.

Drunk driving, recreational drug using, cheating loser. :evil: END OF! Oh and hes ginger too :lol: :lol:

Lets leave Jan in peace to live his life in denial


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Jan waited!

Hamilton had just been dropped, if Jan didn't wait he'd never have caught him up again and so easily.

Jan was cool, a real classy rider, I don't condonde doping but its sad what they're doing to him in Germany


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