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Did I miss something? Was danielson suspected of doping at any time?


If Danielson ever doped he should ask for his money back.


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Did I miss something? Was danielson suspected of doping at any time?


If Danielson ever doped he should ask for his money back.


Thats hilarious! LOL


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Apart from any doping issues...

What interests me is: Will the astana's be in top shape in the Giro?

Riders like Ricco have been training towards the Giro for months, and they explored all the key stages. The Astana's probably didn't do that...

Well, we'll see. Should be interesting. And I think it's a nice "up yours" to ASO anyway :-)


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Can someone name a Giro winner in the last decade that hasn't been linked to doping?


Cunego


Are you seriously implying Cannondale-SAECO did not have a cocaine "issue" in the early 00s?
Post SAECO, Cunego, no go.


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redevoke wrote:
Did I miss something? Was danielson suspected of doping at any time?


If Danielson ever doped he should ask for his money back.


:lol: :lol:

This guy should have his picture in Wikipedia under "over-hyped".


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for gods sake if you want to link someone with something you will won't you. Perhaps we might be able to convict a few terrorists murderers rapists and other unsavoury characters in a similar fashion. I bet you knew where the weapons of mass destruction were as well.

I hardly call white jersey in the tour, tour of Lombardy etc no go. Go on admit it, you are wrong just this once


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Cunego doesn't need the juice because he has a naturally high crit well above the limit set by the UCI. Luckily for him he was tested young and his father's the same.

So, no he's not implicated so far as I'm aware, but the truth never gets in the way of people's prejudices for or against.

ASO have cherry-picked the teams they don't want. Yes, Astana brought shame on the Tour, but then so did Rabobank and a few others. If you ban one, you should ban all of them that are implicated.


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Did I miss something? Was danielson suspected of doping at any time?


If Danielson ever doped he should ask for his money back.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for that.


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for gods sake if you want to link someone with something you will won't you. Perhaps we might be able to convict a few terrorists murderers rapists and other unsavoury characters in a similar fashion. I bet you knew where the weapons of mass destruction were as well.


Oh yes, doping in a bicycle race is exactly the same. Thank you for your moral centering and sense if world perspective.

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The way some people go on about it you would think it was exactly the same. Personally I couldnt give a toss about doping.

You got your wish though didnt you Patxi Villa got busted today, kind of screws your theory about Cunego no go since at Lampre though doesnt it.


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DocRay wrote:
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Can someone name a Giro winner in the last decade that hasn't been linked to doping?


Cunego


Are you seriously implying Cannondale-SAECO did not have a cocaine "issue" in the early 00s?
Post SAECO, Cunego, no go.


That Coke issue was Simoni's Throat med (and got tested and verified). There was also the short sprinter who got busted with a small quantity...

What's that got to do with Cunego?

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Salvatore Comesso, his mates had some Charlie on them when he was going out clubbing with them, he was exonerated completely


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Bingo...

I was thinking Toto and couldn't figure out how the wizard of OZ figured in to this... :wink:

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That Coke issue was Simoni's Throat med (and got tested and verified). There was also the short sprinter who got busted with a small quantity...


Funny, because in the documentary of SAECO Cannondale, "the Quest", Gilberto fully explains the cocaine came from his aunt's candies she purchased in South America, because as we can all believe, everything from South America has cocaine in it. There were at least three different stories form Simoni about how that coke got in him.
No doubt the lab screwed this up.

There were many rumors of doping around SAECO at that time, and frankly, the one thing I've learned about UCI racing rumors is that they are all true.
Anytime a climber comes out of nowhere to beat the world in the toughest climbs, bells go off (Riis, Pantani, Rasmussen, Contadoper, etc.etc.). And after SAECO, Cunego, no go.

Connect the lines from US Postal/Discovery/Astana to the majority of riders caught doping in the last decade and you see a nice wheel design with Johan Bruyneel as the 'Chris King' hub. That's the rear hub, the front hub is Riis.

But what is most amazing, is the fantastic stories the fanboys accept outright, and the "innocent until proven guilty" lines, unless proven guilty, in which case, they are still innocent. Last I heard, Pantani was killed and all that dope and years of buying records were forged.

Sure, I'll watch a few stages of the Giro near parts of Italy my family is from, but I won't admit to friends I still watch pro cycling, I'll tell them it was topless female wrestling instead.

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You have friends :shock:


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