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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:08 pm 
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Adam Hansen once wrote here that a Tour of Austria he was called for doping control, and while waiting for his turn another rider was asked "do you want to do it?" he said no, and he was free to go.
It's not all about how sophisticated the doping is, but also at who is behind it.

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Colored duct tape on the podium-issue jersey. See shoulders and chest. Come on, Tibco.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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LeDuke wrote:
Colored duct tape on the podium-issue jersey. See shoulders and chest. Come on, Tibco.
What does the tape cover?


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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LeDuke wrote:
Colored duct tape on the podium-issue jersey. See shoulders and chest. Come on, Tibco.
What does the tape cover?
the SANTINI logo


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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Danish amateur (continental) rider Martin Toft Madsen targeted the danish hour record this evening and rode 52.574 km in Ballerup Super Arena just outside of Copenhagen. He won the danish hour record and his performance places him at the 4th best hour in the world. He even beat Rohan Dennis' hour record of 52.491 km from february 2015.

He's not unfamiliar with riding his TT bike. In Oslo in 2017 he placed 21st, and 13th in Doha 2016

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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Kudos to him. Which supplement screwed his AD test in his previous attempt?
"Martin Toft Madsen set a Danish Hour Record earlier last year, but it was voided after he failed the doping test, for what was deemed a contaminated supplement, which meant he didn't get any ban, but the result was still voided."

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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Rob81 wrote:
Kudos to him. Which supplement screwed his AD test in his previous attempt?
"Martin Toft Madsen set a Danish Hour Record earlier last year, but it was voided after he failed the doping test, for what was deemed a contaminated supplement, which meant he didn't get any ban, but the result was still voided."
You know what, whenever someone caught with doping says, that the charges are pure BS, you don't believe them. But in this case, I actually believe him.

And the way I see it, he actually proved his innocence. He was taking some food supplement pills named L-carnitine, that he bought from a big danish supplement company with a very good reputation. The company stated on their webpage, that all their products were 100 % legal and didn't contain banned substances of any kind. By accident their L-carnitine products were contaminated with a DMBA, which is a banned substance. Fortunately he still had some pills left and he handed them over to the anti doping agency. They ran some tests on the pills and they found traces of DMBA in them. In other words he provided proof of the origin of the banned substance and he got a slap on the wrist, but they still cancelled his result on his 2017 hour attempt. He later got an apology from the supplement company, and they removed the information from their webpage describing how their products didn't contain banned substances.


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Multebear wrote:
Rob81 wrote:
Kudos to him. Which supplement screwed his AD test in his previous attempt?
"Martin Toft Madsen set a Danish Hour Record earlier last year, but it was voided after he failed the doping test, for what was deemed a contaminated supplement, which meant he didn't get any ban, but the result was still voided."
You know what, whenever someone caught with doping says, that the charges are pure BS, you don't believe them. But in this case, I actually believe him.

And the way I see it, he actually proved his innocence. He was taking some food supplement pills named L-carnitine, that he bought from a big danish supplement company with a very good reputation. The company stated on their webpage, that all their products were 100 % legal and didn't contain banned substances of any kind. By accident their L-carnitine products were contaminated with a DMBA, which is a banned substance. Fortunately he still had some pills left and he handed them over to the anti doping agency. They ran some tests on the pills and they found traces of DMBA in them. In other words he provided proof of the origin of the banned substance and he got a slap on the wrist, but they still cancelled his result on his 2017 hour attempt. He later got an apology from the supplement company, and they removed the information from their webpage describing how their products didn't contain banned substances.
Woah. This is pretty wild.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:37 am 
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Multebear wrote:
Rob81 wrote:
Kudos to him. Which supplement screwed his AD test in his previous attempt?
"Martin Toft Madsen set a Danish Hour Record earlier last year, but it was voided after he failed the doping test, for what was deemed a contaminated supplement, which meant he didn't get any ban, but the result was still voided."
You know what, whenever someone caught with doping says, that the charges are pure BS, you don't believe them. But in this case, I actually believe him.

And the way I see it, he actually proved his innocence. He was taking some food supplement pills named L-carnitine, that he bought from a big danish supplement company with a very good reputation. The company stated on their webpage, that all their products were 100 % legal and didn't contain banned substances of any kind. By accident their L-carnitine products were contaminated with a DMBA, which is a banned substance. Fortunately he still had some pills left and he handed them over to the anti doping agency. They ran some tests on the pills and they found traces of DMBA in them. In other words he provided proof of the origin of the banned substance and he got a slap on the wrist, but they still cancelled his result on his 2017 hour attempt. He later got an apology from the supplement company, and they removed the information from their webpage describing how their products didn't contain banned substances.
Woah, it's not often that ever gets proved!

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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Multebear wrote:
Rob81 wrote:
Kudos to him. Which supplement screwed his AD test in his previous attempt?
"Martin Toft Madsen set a Danish Hour Record earlier last year, but it was voided after he failed the doping test, for what was deemed a contaminated supplement, which meant he didn't get any ban, but the result was still voided."
You know what, whenever someone caught with doping says, that the charges are pure BS, you don't believe them. But in this case, I actually believe him.

And the way I see it, he actually proved his innocence. He was taking some food supplement pills named L-carnitine, that he bought from a big danish supplement company with a very good reputation. The company stated on their webpage, that all their products were 100 % legal and didn't contain banned substances of any kind. By accident their L-carnitine products were contaminated with a DMBA, which is a banned substance. Fortunately he still had some pills left and he handed them over to the anti doping agency. They ran some tests on the pills and they found traces of DMBA in them. In other words he provided proof of the origin of the banned substance and he got a slap on the wrist, but they still cancelled his result on his 2017 hour attempt. He later got an apology from the supplement company, and they removed the information from their webpage describing how their products didn't contain banned substances.
So what stops him from having wilfully contaminated pills to hand in as a built in excuse and get out of jail free card?

AFAIK WADA has to also go out with their investigative team and purchase those pills independently and find the same substance contamination to result in an acquittal. FYI

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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So what stops him from having wilfully contaminated pills to hand in as a built in excuse and get out of jail free card?

AFAIK WADA has to also go out with their investigative team and purchase those pills independently and find the same substance contamination to result in an acquittal. FYI
totally unrelated to cycling but related.... rogan had novitzky on his podcast recently and this exact question was raised for jon jones. I believe (and to paraphrase) he went onto say that if indeed there is a tainted supplement the story and amount and traces in his (jones) system would have to match the supplement and their procurement/tests of it.

22:05 to about 24:40
https://youtu.be/-xxfT301Ii8?t=22m5s

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 PRO thread
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pastronef wrote:
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LeDuke wrote:
Colored duct tape on the podium-issue jersey. See shoulders and chest. Come on, Tibco.
What does the tape cover?
the SANTINI logo
Take a look at the shoulders, too. Not as obvious at first glance, but still.


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