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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:56 am 
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Was shopping for an evade for some races this year. Saw a Red Bull Evade on ebay and was curious since Specialized doesn't make one like this. Super cheap, and you guessed it, direct from China. Now say what you will about their wheels and frames, but copied helmets just seems like a bad idea. No two ways around it. I couldn't tell if they had put any of the testing complied with stickers on the inside, but I am sure they would for the right price.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:02 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:49 pm 
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No, don't. Walk.


If you fall over wearing a knock off helmet it'll explode.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:57 pm 
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:lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:20 pm 
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a red bull version of the evade do exist :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:22 pm 
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Come on, it's just styrofoam


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:24 pm 
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Seroiusly. So there is likely no testing on these helmets which should be a huge concern. But other than mips or other types of stuff if the helmet was produced using the proper foam/process is there really a big difference from other products?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:33 pm 
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I'd expect that many/most of the helmets are made in Asia/China, and the safety regulation compliance stickers are stuck on there too. Given that there are open mold frames, I'm not too surprised if it's a similar situation with the helmets. I tend to think it's more of a reputation thing: if helmets from a reputable company keeps failing, then they would be concerned and do something about it (e.g. improve QC testing). On the other hand, I suspect, depending on the open mold companies, they might be less concerned about their reputation, depending on lower price to draw in customers.

There are a couple of Kickstarter companies that have their smart helmets made in China, and one of them IIRC looks like the Evade. You can tell they are made in China because some backers complain their helmets have been stuck in China for a while based on the package tracking. I believe the helmets have met the safety requirements, but I don't know if/how much QC the Kickstarter companies handle themselves.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:46 pm 
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Problem with knock offs/fakes/replicas/whatever is you don't know what they've done to the process parameters. The variety in grades/densities/etc can be marked, just be turning a dial down a couple of points to speed the process up.

They might not even have the cage inside the foam structure. Just bits of rod to hold the straps.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:48 pm 
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Marin wrote:
Come on, it's just styrofoam
Pretty much. And even the most fantastic 400 dollar helmet provides only very very marginal protection. So i'd prefer not to spend money on something that provides (potentially) none at all.......


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:29 am 
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they make red bull version of the kask protone..saw it on ebay ouch..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KASK-Protone-Sk ... rkt%3D1%26

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:55 am 
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Attermann wrote:
a red bull version of the evade do exist :)

I know they made one for Gwen Jorgenson, but I didn't know it was actually produced.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:25 am 
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My concern is that I would be breaking the law not wearing an Australian certified helmet here. That being the case if I was injured I would possibly not be covered by my or the relevant road authority's insurance or compensation funds. To be it is absolutely NOT worth the risk.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:28 am 
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spookyload wrote:
Attermann wrote:
a red bull version of the evade do exist :)

I know they made one for Gwen Jorgenson, but I didn't know it was actually produced.

It was. Just impossible to get for us mortals lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:04 am 
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Simon Andreassen has a evade and a prevail in red bull edition, but i don't Think we get one us normal people :D


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