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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:57 pm 
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pastronef wrote:
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Trentin (and his team) probably won't help Froome in any future races.


Sky have been controlling the race since stage 3. they put a lot of work, it is a way for Froome to thank his team mates, winning the jersey for the most consistent rider and thank his team.
remember it´s not a sprinter´s jersey, is a consistency jersey
Sagan won the green at the Tour in 2015 with ZERO stage wins, while Greipel won 4 stages


By the logic prevailing here, that was a real a**hole move by Sagan. Surely the honorable thing would to have let Greipel take the green jersey?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:18 pm 
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bilwit wrote:
He should just do the Giro-Tour-Vuelta triple already. He's already proven that he's, at the very least, as strong as the best dopers of all time (none of the best dopers were able to do the Tour-Vuelta double, only 15s off the pace on Armstrong's time up Ax 3 Domaines, etc).


aaaaand he just said it's possible to achieve :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:41 pm 
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wingguy wrote:
Focus? I dunno, unless I've forgotten something I only mentioned it once :noidea:

Also mentioned it in July and April. It's pretty funny, like you're the overlord of bias awareness :D


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:10 pm 
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3 times in one year? Well damn, I guess I must be obsessed :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:59 pm 
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Any other good pro threads on other forums?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:10 am 
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KWalker wrote:
Any other good pro threads on other forums?
cyclingnews.com


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:41 am 
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bilwit wrote:
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He should just do the Giro-Tour-Vuelta triple already. He's already proven that he's, at the very least, as strong as the best dopers of all time (none of the best dopers were able to do the Tour-Vuelta double, only 15s off the pace on Armstrong's time up Ax 3 Domaines, etc).


aaaaand he just said it's possible to achieve :wink:


for the sake of competition and plain entertainment I hope no one capable of doing a triple will ever be born, but the facts are: if the there has been anyone in the history of cycling with abilities and means to do it, it's the Froome-SKY duo.

IMHO another Tour or Vuelta won't make the crowds go wild, so if there's anything left to conquer, it's the holy trinity.

whether they try to do it, I would like to know in advance so I could plan not to watch it. the concept of SKY train owning the roads for the whole 9 weeks seems like a torture to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:39 am 
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bilwit wrote:
bilwit wrote:
He should just do the Giro-Tour-Vuelta triple already. He's already proven that he's, at the very least, as strong as the best dopers of all time (none of the best dopers were able to do the Tour-Vuelta double, only 15s off the pace on Armstrong's time up Ax 3 Domaines, etc).


aaaaand he just said it's possible to achieve :wink:


What he actually said was "I would not say it’s impossible. Nothing is impossible, but it will be extremely difficult."

Hardly the same thing is it? Obviously it doesn't fit your anti-sky/doping agenda, but hey, when has the truth ever mattered?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:41 pm 
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I think the equivalent of the tennis "calendar grand slam", where you hold all the major titles in the same calendar year would indeed be very hard in the modern era. I guess if all three grand tours put some big TT and/or TTT mileage in the same year then you could see Froome currently having enough to get a lead and hold it. But that would be an unlikely scenario.

I could however see someone holding all three titles at the same time, most likely Tour/Vuelta in one year and the Giro in the following. If I were serious about historical legacy in cycling and I was in Froome's postion right now - I'd be thinking do the Giro next year even if it means missing the tour. Only my opinion though.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:45 pm 
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>equivalent of the tennis "calendar grand slam

Almost everybody enters every grand slam every year, so there is no comparison, as in cycling it's only Hansen. :D (maybe other lesser riders too? - I don't know)


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stevec1975 wrote:
bilwit wrote:
bilwit wrote:
He should just do the Giro-Tour-Vuelta triple already. He's already proven that he's, at the very least, as strong as the best dopers of all time (none of the best dopers were able to do the Tour-Vuelta double, only 15s off the pace on Armstrong's time up Ax 3 Domaines, etc).


aaaaand he just said it's possible to achieve :wink:


What he actually said was "I would not say it’s impossible. Nothing is impossible, but it will be extremely difficult."

Hardly the same thing is it? Obviously it doesn't fit your anti-sky/doping agenda, but hey, when has the truth ever mattered?


uhhh "not impossible" is synonymous to "possible", please go read a dictionary

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:03 pm 
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It's a bit disingenuous though, it is not impossible for me to be the next person on the moon right, but it's never going to happen. The way it comes across, CF's comments are stating the same level of impossibility, but it doesn't fit people's narratives obviously.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:22 pm 
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To not be impossible literally means that it is possible. There is nothing disingenuous about the use of the English language.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:50 pm 
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for all grammar related kerfuffles please proceed to the following...

https://www.englishforums.com/English/G ... orum12.htm

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