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bruno2000 wrote:Today Quick-Step team is doing a recon on the Tour of Flanders.
Keisse is riding the new Specialized Roubaix...well sort of...as it stil has the old Dura-Ace AND rimbrakes.

I thought there is no rim brake model.
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LOL 15 riders fined 200 swiss francs for riding on sidewalks in de panne stage 1..... more rule stupidity

"We can’t do much, there were too many riders in the wrong,” head UCI commissaire for the race Joel Alies told Het Nieuwsblad."

"We can’t throw all the riders out of the race. However there will be a special communiqué issued which makes it clear that anyone who rides on the footpath will be excluded.”

"Riders jumped onto the footpath during the lower slopes of the Muur and others took shortcuts via bike paths during the race. Several spectators were almost hit by riders, with a race marshal also avoiding a crash after the riders ignored indications made to warn them of the dangers of a parked car.

Race officials announced that the 15 riders were fined 200 Swiss Francs (185 Euro) for dangerous riding.

Gilbert’s name stood out on the rap sheet after he won the stage with a solo break. It also included Marco Haller, Dries Devenyns, Jasper Buyst, Luke Durbridge, Alex Edmondson, Christoph Pfingsten, Matthias Brandle, Boy van Poppel, Simone Consonni, Alexandre Pichot, Pierre-Luc Perichon, Frederik Backaert, Ole Forfang and Rob Ruijgh."
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spud wrote:a pointless and stupid escalation. Sagan can easily reply, "At the end of spring, I'm sure nobody will ask why you didn't win any big classics. That will really help you find a new team sponsor"

What's certain is that everyone else has figured out the game, and will not wait for the finale to go on the attack. Very strong possibilities of creating a deadlock behind.

Rhetorical question - What's worse for Quickstep - losing to Sagan, or GVA?


seems like their main goal for now is to cock block Sagan
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They should really start to disqualify riders for riding on sidewalks.
It was crazy yesterday, sometimes they were actually cutting short the race route.

As for Boonen riding rim brakes - there is a very high chance to flat in Roubaix, I guess they try to avoid problems with wheel changes.
I wonder, can you replace a disc wheel with a rim wheel as an emergency? I mean there are two brakes on every bike, so it's not like they won't be able to brake at all.
Also, not much downhill in Roubaix either.

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by DartanianX

Specialized PR Machine gearing into action early...

"The Tour of Flanders and Paris-Roubaix are unique and beautiful races, and at the same time, extremely technical and exhausting. The many infamous cobbled sectors in these Monuments increase the possibility of a tire puncture, and managing the replacement of wheels is one of the main issues for all competitors — especially those aspiring to a great result. In a time where bikes with disc brakes have not yet been adopted by all teams, there exists a discrepancy in mechanical assistance along the course. For these technical and strategic reasons, working closely with our teams and riders, we’ve decided to supply Tom Boonen (for whom Paris-Roubaix will be the last race of his career), and all of our riders competing at both Flanders and Paris-Roubaix, with Roubaix bikes that have traditional rim brakes. This is a platform that’s UCI-approved and could be commercialized, that is if it’s determined to have enough consumer demand."

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tymon_tm wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/quick-step-on-sagan-we-try-to-win-but-if-we-dont-win-then-he-loses/

Wilfried Peeters - QS DS wrote:We try to win… but if we don’t win then he (Sagan) loses


I see a heavy contender in the "dumbest quote of the year" contest :roll:


I think it's just a bit of muscle talk (is that correct english?) from both sides. Sagan also said in the post race interview, "this is an example of how you can lose the race against me." and "I could decide today who could win".
Both camps just played poker and it didn't work out great for any of them. They only got themselves to look at, both Terpstra and Sagan.
We, the viewers are the winners of this (And GvA of course) because it gave the race some extra excitement and gives fuel to fight for the upcoming races!

Now we just have to hope they all stay on their bike in the RVV so we get the real battle the race deserves. Was such a disappointment last year when GvA went down with the entire BMC team.

To get into the RVV, Belgium television broadcasted this docu of last years 100th RVV. It's mostly in Dutch but gives you a nice view of the craziness in the caravan behind the peloton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u5sc2utvTY
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Yes, while the heavyweights play psychological games with each other it may provide a space for a few talented risk takers to come to the forefront and make for some great racing.
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Rondje wrote:And did Holm actually said the spitting, or did he only talk about the drama? Which might as well be about Sagan's complaining.


Loosely translated; the conversation was something like this:

Holm: Cycling at its best: swearing, cursing and mad people :-)

Randomguy1: @holm, but what's going on with Terpstra? Definitely not okay.

Holm: @Randomguy1 go watch dancing with the stars and women's handball

Randomguy1: @Holm So spitting in the face is ok? Not that it's the ind of the world, but it's definitely not good behavior either. And Kragh probably just followed orders from the teamcar at first, when he wasn't pulling.

Holm: @Randomguy1 go write a chronicle for The Sun.

Randomguy1: @Holm I guess your first priority is defending your own riders, that's the name of the game. Over and out.

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ave wrote:As for Boonen riding rim brakes - there is a very high chance to flat in Roubaix, I guess they try to avoid problems with wheel changes.
I wonder, can you replace a disc wheel with a rim wheel as an emergency? I mean there are two brakes on every bike, so it's not like they won't be able to brake at all.


See bold

A front wheel you could probably get to work in an emergency, since road disc and road rim brake front hub spacing is 100mm. But then again you may have spoke/hub-flange clearance issues around the disc brake caliper if installing a rim brake wheel.

Rear wheel is no chance without other issues. Rear rim brake spacing is 130mm, rear disc brake spacing is 135mm and then you have the issue of QR vs Thru Axle frames.

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That conversation still doesn't say anything about the spitting.

Multebear wrote:Holm: @Randomguy1 go write a chronicle for The Sun.


At best this line indicates that it's a gossip story as The Sun is a gossip paper in the UK if I'm not mistaken.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Terpstra if he did it. I just don't like people being judge jury and executioner when we don't know what really happened. If he really did it why didn't Giant file a complaint or talk about it? It stayed by 1 post race interview, it can be metaphorical.

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nathanong87 wrote:Ole Forfang
playing with the big boys for 13th on 3ddp stage 1. Joker-Icopal is a Conti team.

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Rondje wrote:That conversation still doesn't say anything about the spitting.

Multebear wrote:Holm: @Randomguy1 go write a chronicle for The Sun.


At best this line indicates that it's a gossip story as The Sun is a gossip paper in the UK if I'm not mistaken.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Terpstra for doing it. I just don't like people being judge jury and executioner when we don't know what really happened. If he really did it why didn't Giant file a complaint or talk about it? It stayed by 1 post race interview, it can be metaphorical.


The "chronicle for The Sun" part is very loosely translated. There is a danish newspaper called Ekstra Bladet. They have a section with items for everyone to comment on. And Ekstra Bladet attracts... how do I put this... a lot of readers with very narrow-minded points of view. And that comments section is just pure hate towards everything and everyone, trolling and generally just a waste of time. That's the place Holm suggested the random guy to post his opinion on Terpstra.

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by Rondje

Thanks for clearing that up. But it still doesn't prove anything about Holm's opinion or possibly saying that it happened. A place for narrow-minded/hated people still suggests it's probably not been a real incident.

But let's focus on the positive: Today in De Panne :-D
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Rondje wrote:Thanks for clearing that up. But it still doesn't prove anything about Holm's opinion or possibly saying that it happened. A place for narrow-minded/hated people still suggests it's probably not been a real incident.

But let's focus on the positive: Today in De Panne :-D
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