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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:04 am 
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Overall this year has seen many great races. The Giro and Vuelta were awesome. Tour was boring but lots of exciting classics except voor the normal boring ones.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:31 pm 
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How 'bout that Lars van der Haar?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:57 pm 
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Van der Haar has been the one who gets closest to van der Poel en van Aert for the last couple of years. Not really a surprise but he is very prone to injuries.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:44 pm 
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Even the Tour wasn't that bad this year. There was a stage where Froome had to chase the lead group! And once he was in difficulty! That's big difference to previous editions! :)


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Does anybody else think that Mathieu van der Poel did not chase Lars van der Haar @ DVV Trophy Cyclocross Ronse for some reason?

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That is exactly what happened. Through the start/finish, he attacked and there was no response. Neither wanted to be the one to follow. We may see that play-out again between them throughout the Season, which could result in some unexpected wins.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:06 pm 
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ave wrote:
Even the Tour wasn't that bad this year. There was a stage where Froome had to chase the lead group! And once he was in difficulty! That's big difference to previous editions! :)

Ummm, 2015 stages 19 and 20?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:11 pm 
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As Lefebvre and others here said, classy way for Trentin to go move on from QS. But also classy for QS to start him at all. Don't have any stats to support but I'd say the norm would be for outgoing riders to be benched for most of the fall.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:51 pm 
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Geoff wrote:
That is exactly what happened. Through the start/finish, he attacked and there was no response. Neither wanted to be the one to follow. We may see that play-out again between them throughout the Season, which could result in some unexpected wins.


On one occasion I recall MvP hot on Wout van Aert's wheel, when WvA was accelerating off the front. MvP had little trouble passing Toon Aerts with ease to mark the move. Perhaps MvP didn't want to chase his countryman down, although he could have easily done so, as it was pretty obvious that MvP is still on form to win?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:53 pm 
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wingguy wrote:
ave wrote:
Even the Tour wasn't that bad this year. There was a stage where Froome had to chase the lead group! And once he was in difficulty! That's big difference to previous editions! :)

Ummm, 2015 stages 19 and 20?


True, I was wrong. Still, the point it wasn't that bad as "usual".


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the standards seem low these days.

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petepeterson wrote:
I'd say the norm would be for outgoing riders to be benched for most of the fall.


or being sent to Tour of Guangxi (previously Beijing) :mrgreen:


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KWalker wrote:
the standards seem low these days.
Nostalic at heart? :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:04 am 
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Craigagogo wrote:
Does anybody else think that Mathieu van der Poel did not chase Lars van der Haar @ DVV Trophy Cyclocross Ronse for some reason?


VDP did not need to follow that move with all the wins he has already, he left it up to the world champ to chase. I also think VDP knew if it ended in a sprint he would get second to his countryman so it was a win win situation.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:32 am 
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Craigagogo wrote:
Geoff wrote:
That is exactly what happened. Through the start/finish, he attacked and there was no response. Neither wanted to be the one to follow. We may see that play-out again between them throughout the Season, which could result in some unexpected wins.


On one occasion I recall MvP hot on Wout van Aert's wheel, when WvA was accelerating off the front. MvP had little trouble passing Toon Aerts with ease to mark the move. Perhaps MvP didn't want to chase his countryman down, although he could have easily done so, as it was pretty obvious that MvP is still on form to win?


It wasn't really because he was a fellow countryman. Lars just took the right moment and both V Aert and VD Poel where looking at each other to close the gap. VD Poel won't give away a present like that to lose his first race. V Aert probably though it was up to VD Poel to close since he is the one to beat, and VD Poel though V Aert needed the win more as he hasn't won yet and is World Champion.

It is going to be interesting to see how the season continues. VD Poel came of the mountainbike on great form while V Aert still seems to grow. But V Aert wants to do the impossible by doing the spring classics and most of the CX races. While even Boom who only done around 10 CX races last year missed endurance for the classics last year.


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