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wingguy
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by wingguy on Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:16 pm
kingkongsfinger wrote:Nino Schurter has been unbelievable this year, won all six rounds of the World Cup this year, as well as his sixth world championship, also he's Olympic champion and also won Cape epic early in March.
He's dominated MTB XC more than all Team Sky put together, no one seems to question him, no alarm bells ringing??
For me he is amazing but made the sport I love watching quite boring this year.
My worry about Schurter and XCO is
maybe not that Schurter is so incredibly good that it's inhuman, but that there isn't enough money left in the rest of professional mountain biking to keep the best new talent from all going straight to the road. Easiest example, Sagan.
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KWalker
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by KWalker on Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:42 am
How is Nino not extremely bored?
He was dominant, sure, but his margin of victory wasn't all that huge and follows the format of most XC races- get a good holeshot, get to the front, select group forms, they attack each other and ride together, someone usually attacks and wins or 2 guys sprint at the end. He beat Kulhavy by less than 10 seconds 3 times this year. Probably says more about his rival's consistency than his.
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kingkongsfinger
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by kingkongsfinger on Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:33 am
KWalker wrote:How is Nino not extremely bored?
He was dominant, sure, but his margin of victory wasn't all that huge and follows the format of most XC races- get a good holeshot, get to the front, select group forms, they attack each other and ride together, someone usually attacks and wins or 2 guys sprint at the end. He beat Kulhavy by less than 10 seconds 3 times this year. Probably says more about his rival's consistency than his.
Agreed but he just rides off and bins whoever hes with on the last or penultimate lap, whoever hes with tries to put him on the rack and then it "seems" he can just drop them as and when.
We will never know but Im sure hes never been under massive pressure and maybe hes just doing enough for a win and not totally emptying himself, he never looks cooked over the finish line.
"I could have done this job myself in five minutes, but as things turned out I had to spend two days trying to find out why it had taken someone else three weeks to do it wrong."
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KWalker
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by KWalker on Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:06 pm
He doesn't just ride off really, but has smart timing for his attacks. When Kulhavy is on his wheel he will always attack right where Kulhavy is weaker typically a steep or technical section and just hold the gap, which is rarely much over 10 seconds. To me that's like a road attack in the last few km where someone wins because of perfect timing and reading the course, not absolutely dominant form on a climb where they just ride off from a 5.8w/kg tempo and win by a minute.
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tymon_tm
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by tymon_tm on Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:45 am
Bergen looks like a million dollar bike destination, but the TTT itself - o total waste of time. I get it's been designed for team sponsors but #1 most of them dont give a duck and skip it #2 having like half of the starting list comprised of local teams only dilutes the WC's image and significance.
kkibbler wrote: WW remembers.
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Snabb
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by Snabb on Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:29 pm
tymon_tm wrote:Bergen looks like a million dollar bike destination, but the TTT itself - o total waste of time. I get it's been designed for team sponsors but #1 most of them dont give a duck and skip it #2 having like half of the starting list comprised of local teams only dilutes the WC's image and significance.
Bergen is beautiful but it rains 280 days per year... It`s one of the places in europe that get the most rain.
Ride lots!
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Kjetil
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by Kjetil on Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:07 pm
Norway had five conti teams this year. Two of them, Sparebanken Sør (owned by Thor Hushovd) and Fixit, did their last race yesterday. Must be nice to get a send off like that. No dilution to me, alas.
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Wookski
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by Wookski on Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:30 am
tymon_tm wrote:Bergen looks like a million dollar bike destination, but the TTT itself - o total waste of time. I get it's been designed for team sponsors but #1 most of them dont give a duck and skip it #2 having like half of the starting list comprised of local teams only dilutes the WC's image and significance.
Agree- TTT is a nothing event. Like Cycling's version of synchronised swimming.
