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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:54 am 
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@pastronef

Yes looks like a few races he uses the real gaerne !


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:12 am 
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romalor wrote:
@pastronef

No he has never raced with gaerne always specialized s works
look at older pics

He has wear for some years a special cover that mimics the apparence of gaerne shoes
like rui costa did a while to wear bont even his team provided northwave

I know the brother in law of tim wellens , he told me all this so trusted informations ...


I saw a few races where he had real Gaerne, 2014-2015


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:20 am 
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Offredo's case was judged, he's fined 400 euros on probation and he has to pay 300 euros for compensation , the man and woman (apparently portugueses or french-portugueses) who assaulted him are fined 700 euros on probation ...
http://www.leparisien.fr/essonne-91/le-cycliste-yoann-offredo-et-ses-agresseurs-condamnes-par-le-tribunal-d-evry-23-11-2017-7411275.php

So basically it's free to assault a cyclist on the road in France and you can have a large knife in your car glove box.

French judges have their own values :
a policeman got 6 months jail time for a slap to an agitated illegal immigrant:
http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/222877/article/2017-09-25/un-policier-juge-pour-avoir-gifle-un-migrant
a minor who killed a chinese man (while robbing him in the street) got 2 years (rather 1 year because jails are overcrowded) :
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2017/11/10/97001-20171110FILWWW00375-deux-ans-de-prison-pour-le-jeune-agresseur-d-un-chinois-mort-a-aubervilliers.php


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:30 am 
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I saw that case as well and was shocked by it, but no surprise really. There have been worse.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:47 am 
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Why 300 euros for compensation? He now gets the same fine as the attackers due to the compensation?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:41 pm 
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Apparently for the judges Offredo (and another cyclist with him) is responsible for the incident and rather the attacker than the victim.
The woman said she hit Offredo just to defend the driver (her colleague) and the knife they had is very small.
I guess Offredo was too naive and honest, and he doesn't make a good victim (in front of a judge it helps a lot).
So Offredo has to pay 300 euros to them and they don't have to pay anything.
No fine to be paid unlike they make another offence in the next six months or something.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:12 pm 
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Antoine wrote:
Apparently for the judges Offredo (and another cyclist with him) is responsible for the incident and rather the attacker than the victim.
The woman said she hit Offredo just to defend the driver (her colleague) and the knife they had is very small.
I guess Offredo was too naive and honest, and he doesn't make a good victim (in front of a judge it helps a lot).
So Offredo has to pay 300 euros to them and they don't have to pay anything.
No fine to be paid unlike they make another offence in the next six months or something.


Okay, so good to know. If I'd ever get attacked in France I should just run away, don't fight back or do anything else. Weird stuff man, specially since Offredo was pretty beat up.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:17 pm 
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2017 PRO LEGAL DISCUSSION

Hey guys free tip don't escalate with someone in a car. Absolute best case scenario you end up a meme on the internet.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:25 pm 
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>Hey guys free tip don't escalate with someone in a car.
Absolutely. I know too well.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:49 pm 
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So Wout Van Aert seems to be getting back on form, got lucky yestwrday with Van Der Poel having a mechanical on the beginning, but he kept on going full gas for 7 laps and never giving VdP any chance of getting back.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:14 pm 
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It's hard to say. Sunday it was all VD Poel again. I think the loads of walking on Saturday was in V Aert's favour. If you don't count the mechanical it would have been a different race since VD Poel kept the gap the same until he went into energy saving mode for the next race.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:58 pm 
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Couple of points on the course at Zeven he appeared to be coming back until it got to ~2 laps to go, then it was fairly much steady until Toon Aerts started getting too close for comfort.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:06 pm 
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meanwhile, in a country that just startet to get some nice results:

http://www.thenews.pl/1/5/Artykul/337047,Polish-Cycling-Federation-board-asked-to-resign-over-sex-scandal

something CN and other mainstreem media would shout about if it concerned e.g. Anglo-Saxon countries (we did read a lot about Sutton, didn't we) :roll:

it's even more sad all this stuff was allowed to happen partially because cycling is a piss poor sport media don't care about. no journos having insight in what's happening behind the courtain, no one really interested in day to day stuff - I bet a scandal like this couldn't happen in football, where all the players and fat guys are constantly exposed, and one can't go to a dinner with a new broad without full media coverage. here, it's just a bunch of people no one knows outside their small closed circle, and no one gives a damn really. from what I gather, "stuff's been circulating" amongst pro cycling community for a while now, but - here you go - no one was interested.

take an underfunded organisation where superiors steal from athletes, allow them to operate in a dark with absolutely no media interest, add young girls to the mix, and the result is - an ideal recipe for a disaster.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:24 pm 
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What do you think about the new Sky kit? In my opinion they should've stayed with 2017s design. It's something about the white and the blue band over the chest that just feels a bit dated.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:22 pm 
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tymon_tm wrote:
I bet a scandal like this couldn't happen in football, where all the players and fat guys are constantly exposed, and one can't go to a dinner with a new broad without full media coverage. here, it's just a bunch of people no one knows outside their small closed circle, and no one gives a damn really. from what I gather, "stuff's been circulating" amongst pro cycling community for a while now, but - here you go - no one was interested.


I'm not sure what part you mean with couldn't happen in football. There have been plenty of sex scandals in the football world, and the whole #metoo posts recently show there are plenty of people in high places in various industries who abuse their power but manage to somehow control it empowered by fear.


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