2016 'PRO' cycling discussion.

[SolidSnake03]

As a further point, cold and dry conditions like those seen in cross country skiers are some of the more likely triggers of asthma when it comes to physical performance. Running and cycling, given that they are outside in various environmental conditions and allow the athlete to also be subjected to many possible allergens are also fairly high on the list of sports most common to trigger asthma/% of athletes in the sport with the condition. Compare this now to something like swimming which is a climate controlled wet environment or weight lifting which again is an indoor climate controlled situation. You are removing a large amount of environmental factors (and potential stressors) and allergens in both of those settings.

In other words, it's no surprise that cross country skiing has a high % just like running and cycling compared to say swim. That makes complete sense given how active asthma tends to be triggered and works (in general).

A brief personal example, I competed for my school in college in Triathlon and cycling. As such I spent a large amount of time running, swimming and cycling. I could swim for miles and feel great, not a hint of asthma or breathing restriction BUT for running and cycling I needed to use my inhaler otherwise I would seize up and keel over by mile 3. This has continued into later life where I now lift most days of the week mixed with swim and cycling. I only need my inhaler when cycling and especially when it's colder out but for lifting and swim you wouldn't know I had a problem at all.

[nathanong87]

the pre season TT work must have paid off ... dude just beat do my lawn.

[wingguy]

Can't Hein & Brian just issue a retrospective emergency TUE?

So that's a no to the second question

Apparently they don't need to. UCI statement says “As per the UCI’s Anti-Doping Rules, such substance does not entail the imposition of a provisional suspension.”

So that means "The legal service and the UCI could agree on a warning or some other type of reaction, or ask the UCI Anti-Doping Commission to do so." So he's not looking at a 2 year ban.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/simon-yates-not-suspended-positive-test-terbutaline-confirms-uci-223094

[djconnel]

Interesting bars


In contrast, Ruta del Sol:



Likely a compromise to the uphill first half of the time trial.

[djcharlou]

Or "high extension" like Tony Martin,looks to have less drag with it

[maquisard]

Back in the good old days!



Same brand of bikes and Teflon coated Andy Rihs was in charge back then as well!

[Dez33]

^There is no evidence that asthma drugs are performance enhancing when used by non-asthmatics.

Even on terbutaline alone there is evidence, are you implying all B2 agonists?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270505/
http://erj.ersjournals.com/content/42/Suppl_57/P3960
http://jap.physiology.org/content/119/5/475.long

[Dez33]

Can't Hein & Brian just issue a retrospective emergency TUE?

So that's a no to the second question

Apparently they don't need to. UCI statement says “As per the UCI’s Anti-Doping Rules, such substance does not entail the imposition of a provisional suspension.”

So that means "The legal service and the UCI could agree on a warning or some other type of reaction, or ask the UCI Anti-Doping Commission to do so." So he's not looking at a 2 year ban.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/simon-yates-not-suspended-positive-test-terbutaline-confirms-uci-223094

Not sure why you quoted me? I was replying to whether a backdated TUE could be applied for (i.e. make the problem go away).

Whether he ends up with a sanction in terms of a ban is a separate question.

As Yates is currently free to race he could now apply for a TUE for his next race.

[wingguy]

Because you were talking about whether Yates and Orica could get a backdated TUE and my first sentence was "Apparently they don't need to."

I think that's a pretty linear conversation flow, don't you?

[Kjetil]

^There is no evidence that asthma drugs are performance enhancing when used by non-asthmatics.

Even on terbutaline alone there is evidence, are you implying all B2 agonists?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270505/
http://erj.ersjournals.com/content/42/Suppl_57/P3960
http://jap.physiology.org/content/119/5/475.long

I give you Shane Stoke's excellent journalism:
http://cyclingtips.com/2016/04/cycling- ... ro-riders/

[micky]

The dr says that you cant consider the studies isolated cause obviously one study alone doesn't make a bulletproof result, but yet we should trust his opinion about healthy athletes using an inhaler (no product specified) for boost performance.

Anyway, rules says you need a TUE and if you don't have it you do get a ban.

[dereksmalls]

Have none of you actually heard of exercise enduced asthma? It's not uncommon. I know people here who suffer from it who are the top of their game

[PSM]

Let all cyclists use asthma medicine. Problem solved.

[tymon_tm]

maybe let them all use what they want and ride what they want as well?

[HammerTime2]

I have SCS, slow climber's syndrome. I should get a TUE for EPO, at least sufficient to get me to 50% hematocrit.

I'm also shorter than average. I should get a TUE for HGH.

A woman told me I'm not manly enough. I should get a TUE for testosterone.

And if after all that I'm still too slow, I should get a TUE for a Vivax Assist.