wingguy wrote:I like it when team games say "
We don't have a doping problem. And if we did have a doping problem it wouldn't matter, because it's still the skill of the player that counts most!" while >300lb dudes with <10% body fat bulldozer through each other on the pitch. Yep, skill
(And I may have misremembered but I was watching an NFL game 2 seasons ago and I'm pretty sure the commentators were saying some linebacker or another had just come back from the 6 week suspension he was given after his second positive. And cycling has the problem...)
Its bonkers all of it. I know people have a go at me for saying let them dope legally and I understand that. But for me its a battle that will never be won. I don't see how you will ever make the playing field fair. Money comes into it. I follow with a medium interest body building and right now there is a gym in Kuwait " I think" where a lot of body builders are going to because the anabolic chicken is so good that they are making insane gains in just a few weeks. I think they have something like 6 or 7 of the top body builders in the world going over there to "train" One of the guys got injured in the off season and you could not tell he was a body builder because he was off the drugs, he lost all his gains, soon as his injury healed he started taking the anabolic chicken and within a few weeks ,I kid you not a few weeks , boom he's nearly 300 pounds ripped and competing in the Mr Olympia next month. The gains are just amazing. Obviously genetics comes into play but also the quality of the "chicken" and you get what you pay for.
I know I am rambling a bit" a lot:
" but I reckon that doping is getting sophisticated and the rich athletes would have better access to the best gear. When you look back at the doping in the Armstrong era it was Blood bags , Epo cortisone etc. I'm sure its moved on quite a lot. If you know about SARMS for instance, They hit certain receptors like a designer drug. They are freely available although illegal in pro sports but if that's what Joe Public can buy what is available to the elite athletes with big budgets and big money to be made. When athletes say they are clean maybe they are because the drugs are so good.
I personally think the top [ rich] athletes are definitely way ahead of the testers and to think that the top sporting body's act so ignorant and shocked when athletes get busted. If say my favourite rider Contador got busted tomorrow I would not be shocked yet the UCI would make some statement saying how they thought cycling was clean etc etc ,you know the usual media message and everything carry's on like before. Its like alcohol kills 40.000 people a year in the UK . Recreational drugs kill a handful and those cases are not clear cut because of peoples predisposed health issues. Yet the Media will put make a huge thing if someone dies from taking a E etc.
Not much news about the 40.000 drink related deaths "money" The same kind of media manipulation given to PED's in sport. I would legalise doping in sport, You would not have to waste the millions of pounds and time on a never ending losing battle. Instead you could make sure athletes health is looked after and that they have expert knowledge in what they are taking [ I think the top athletes have this already anyway] and at least we are not being lied to. Don't forget that some drugs that are now illegal used to be legal including EPO. The public don't really care, it seems to me the sporting bodies care more about having good public face rather than deal with the truth look at the corruption in Football , Athletics etc.
I have 2 sons. What if you had a son/daughter who became a pro athlete and it comes down to the choice of doping and being set up for life or not doping and working at Mc Donalds " no offence meant" what would you say to them?