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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:39 am 
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So after a fitting this winter I have raised my seat aprox. and inch or 2.5cm. Now both on the mountain bike and the road bike I am getting wear where butt transitions into the leg in the crease. I am riding the shame bibs and I have had it with 3 different pairs. Ridden the same bibs before the fitting and never had the problem before. Not sure why its happening and no idea what to do so please help :noidea:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:12 am 
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I'm no expert but it sounds like you've raised the saddle too much and now your hips are rotating at the bottom of your stroke to accommodate the longer distance.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:38 am 
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Two things.
Your saddle is probably too high.
All fits are not equal.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:07 am 
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I had a fit last week and the fitter dropped my saddle slightly.

No more sores.

Coincidence?

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+1 on saddle height. Drop the saddle 1mm until you can no longer detect any hip rock. You should be able to feel it with the bike on a trainer.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:32 pm 
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And for what it's worth big changes like that are a bad idea if you need to change that much due it 5 mms at a time


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:25 pm 
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Retul by any chance??

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:43 pm 
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Mine was a retul fit. Yes.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:47 pm 
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From what I've seen which isn't exactly a scientific study, Retul normally results in saddles going up by about 30mm and causing problems.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:23 pm 
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I don't know when you had your fit but if it is less than 2 weeks and if you are pushing it just the same as on the old bike it maybe could give some pain issues. One also has to get used to the new position that takes for some at least 2 weeks and after a fit one should take it a bit more easy so the body can get used to new position.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:16 pm 
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Yes, on Retul fit.

Its a while ago I did a fit maybe 1.5 month.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:37 am 
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Are you saying the Retul fitter raised your seat 2.5cm? That is an absolutely gigantic difference in saddle height. If it has been 1.5 months and there's been no change I'd say something is off with the fit, most likely the saddle is too high.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:49 pm 
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Yeah 2.5 cm is too much to do it all at one time. maybe over a period of time while you were riding in the spring.
Also if you move your seat up 2.5 cm you will likely need to adjust the seat forward to compensate for the new seat position because then your leg is at a different angle. You are further out from the pedal axle. You also might need to adjust bar height, and stem length unless you are flexible to stay in the new position.

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stella-azzurra wrote:
Yeah 2.5 cm is too much to do it all at one time. maybe over a period of time while you were riding in the spring.
Also if you move your seat up 2.5 cm you will likely need to adjust the seat forward to compensate for the new seat position because then your leg is at a different angle. You are further out from the pedal axle. You also might need to adjust bar height, and stem length unless you are flexible to stay in the new position.


Agree its a big change to move that much at once. I have gotten a bike with a 3cm taller HT and a shorter stem. The seat has actually been moved back as I had a zero off set post before and that was not working out at all and causing pain on the top of my foot.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:16 pm 
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/Rantmode on

Annnnd once again the fitter idiocy rears it's head. I'm at a loss why people go to these quacks. There is clear proof every fitter is just making it up as they go. Even the good fitters just use experience, not a system:

1. There is no agreed upon ideal fit. Indeed, from fitter to fitter, from system to system, results vary wildly.
2. There is no uncontested scientific evidence that one fit is better than the other.
3. Everyone is different. Some are agile, some have hidden pains (for example a shoulder issue). There is no system that catches those things.
4. Within reason a body gets used to a position. People freak out about a cm of drop more or less, while you get used to it pretty fast (within reason).
5. Cycling is a dynamic activity. Everyone moves cm's fore and aft.

Yeah, there are a few good fitters out there, but generally you can do it yourself cheaper and better. A tip to save yourself a TON of cash: Just use Genzling's calculations for a first fit and then "feel" your way from there.

Goddime everytime I hear the advice "Go to a fitter, it's the best money you ever spent" my head hurts. It's lazy advice to spent a crap ton of cash for a rather debatable outcome.

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