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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:36 pm 
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Im getting some 303's this week and wanted to know your opinion on what tubular tires should I go with. Vittoria, Schwalbe, Continental? any other brand?

based solely on your experiences. I live in PR with not so good roads and a lot of hills so a good puncture resistant will be beneficial.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:47 pm 
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I have ridden with, continental sprinter and gatorskin, vitoria corsa cx, and veloflex criterium, and for me the best one, is the veloflex with difference....

pd: my english is not very good im spanish hahahaha

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:53 pm 
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try the search function as this topic has been discussed countless times before

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:23 pm 
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like any other topic on this and all the other forums.

since there's no conti 4000s2 23-25mm tubular , there's chance you will get real answer, not sponsored by Conti :mrgreen:

I'm clincher guy, so not much help here, BUT if new SchwalbeONE tubular rides the way as clincher does - I would give it a chance.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:04 am 
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You're gonna have to experiment. I live in AZ. Half of our roads are meticulous, and the rest are pure crap.

I tried several different brands, and have settled on Kenda Domestique for training/crap roads, and Continental Sprinter Gatorskins for everything else. I put a couple of ounces of Orange Seal in each wheel. So far, I haven't been left stranded on my tubs.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:15 am 
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If you want the best I suggest FMB carbones


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:55 am 
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My old tubs (maxxis forza) ripped on my last ride so I had this same problem earlier. After a long googling I decided on veloflex arenbergs. I can give impressions on them when they arrive. I will be mounting them on enve ses 6.7.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:28 am 
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+1 for Veloflex Arenbergs. Mounted to my 2015 campa bora 50s, they are incredible. Very supple, fast, and no punctures as of yet. Just make sure you take care of them, give them an inspection after every ride to make sure there's no little bits embedded.

Don't ruin your lovely wheels with conti gatorskins. May as well strap hosepipe to them.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:03 am 
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Arenbergs are fantastic.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:11 am 
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And if you want to go with the 23mm the veloflex carbon are also highly recommended.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:22 am 
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@phollingswo: what do you mean with your sentence "Don't ruin your lovely wheels with conti gatorskins. May as well strap hosepipe to them" ??

thanks in advance


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:25 pm 
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Conti's have a reputation for not being very supple. Vittoria and Veloflex are the opposite.

As a rule everyone on here seems to prefer Veloflex. I run Vittoria because in the UK they're about 30% cheaper and still very nice to ride. On the 303's I'd probably put some Vittoria SC's for the tan sidewalls or Pave Black if the roads are covered in sharp debris.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:56 pm 
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Arenbergs here too. Love them


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:00 pm 
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I actually ride the Arenbergs on one set of tubular wheels and some Conti's on another.
As the OP states he's riding in Puerto Rico on rough roads, I would have to err on the side of the Continentals for the conditions.
They really are a faithful tubular in bad conditions and roll acceptably well.
The Veloflex ride better for sure, but if protection is your key goal, go with the Contis.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:25 pm 
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Try a 24mm or a 25mm tubular. Less pressure, more give in the carcass = more comfortable ride and less puncture pick up. I believe many tyres are over inflated (like rock hard) with any sharp object encountered more likely to pierce the tyre. So my suggestion before you consider any brand is to select a tyre width based upon your requirements.

I have some experience with multiple brands / models and widths of tubular tyre on widely varied wheels. I am 80kk weight and ride all my bikes now with 75psi up front and 85psi in the rear and ride mostly on crappy, pock marked gravel strewn chip seal rural roads and have found FMB tyres the most comfortable.

The FMB Paris Roubaix cotton case 25mm is the most comfortable of all. The FMB Competition CX 24mm cotton case are also very comfy and a tad faster than the PR's at same pressures......... for some reason I don't quite like my FMB 25mm CX Comp silk case tyres as much as the cotton case tyres.

The Vittoria CG Pave is another favorite (much cheaper than FMB) and is the tubular I have ridden the most miles on. I have the older 24mm version fitted and will switch to the newer 25mm version once these wear out. The Vittoria CG Pave is the only Vittoria tubular that I like at my desired low pressures. I found both the Vittoria SC and Vittoria CX both felt doughy when rolling and heavy on the steering given my desired low operating pressures.

I've also tried Schwalbe HT in 25mm and found them also much better suited to higher pressures than I want to run. Also rode a set of Conti Gatorskin Sprinter tubulars for a short time and found them diabolically uncomfortable compared to all previously mentioned tubulars and lacked grip on damp roads but their wear rate is glacial compared to any of the afore mentioned tubulars and will last considerably longer than the aforementioned tyres.


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