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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:50 am 
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Here is the link to the mike sinyard apology: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=429367720519294

I don't know the Sinyard, but it seems he had difficulties saying those words, but maybe that's the way he speak and he is sincere, who knows. Would he still apologize if there is no camera agreement ? Most likely the camera is specialized idea for damage control.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:55 am 
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Well, lets see how far it goes, or will people forget and just go on like it never happened in a year. Memories are often very short.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:27 am 
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That wasn't Sinyard who traveled to Canada, it was his clone that was made by Merida and was sent on his behalf!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:15 am 
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Klarion wrote:
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The problem is that without protection for intellectual property no one would be willing to invest in anything - there would be no economy.


You are rather overstating the case here. Whether you approve of them or not, there have been economies, and also sectors within economies, where the was no protection for 'intellectual property'. Things still got done.


Quite true but what kind of things are "getting done". Situations like this lead to a lack of innovation, productivity, and competitiveness. For most members of such an economy it means a much lower standard of living and for many complete misery. This might be acceptable in pre-industrial agrarian societies but it is not a recipe for well being in the current era.

Yes my statement is of course hyperbole but I am right about your bike, car, and house.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:24 am 
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Here is the link to the mike sinyard apology: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=429367720519294" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


So painful to watch and almost surreal (there is an episode of the Office where Michael Scott makes an apology video - this is better). Sinyard looks like he has a mouthful of shit.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:27 am 
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nfecyle wrote:
I don't know the Sinyard, but it seems he had difficulties saying those words, but maybe that's the way he speak and he is sincere, who knows. Would he still apologize if there is no camera agreement ? Most likely the camera is specialized idea for damage control.

Of course. Why else would the owner head up there and apologise?

Why it's still not good enough to accept is a little bewildering though, as time has shown Spec will push on if they feel they have a case. Seems not in this instance.

But still not sincere enough for some...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:26 am 
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Quite true but what kind of things are "getting done". Situations like this lead to a lack of innovation, productivity, and competitiveness. For most members of such an economy it means a much lower standard of living and for many complete misery.

Did you experience it yourself or do you just believe everything you hear on TV?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:44 am 
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Well, the guy obviously wants to pay homage to France, and Roubaix is now off-limits, so maybe he could sell California Champagne, to pay homage to the Champagne region of France. Maybe get DSK to endorse it.

If he can't withstand Specialized, how is he going to hold up against the entire Champagne region and the French government when they sue his a$$.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:43 am 
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Does this mean retroactiely Epic Cycleworkds can start using the name Epic again?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:31 pm 
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Epix Gear, a clothing brand, claims it received a cease and desist letter from Specialized over that company's Epic trademark yesterday.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:44 pm 
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Epix Gear, a clothing brand, claims it received a cease and desist letter from Specialized over that company's Epic trademark yesterday.



SpecialEd just must not understand. I hope the public hurts their bottom line.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:13 pm 
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I thought the apology and explanation sounded completely sincere and believable. I think anyone would be a bit "uncomfortable" making a personal apology on film, so the fact that he was a bit hesitating and uncomfortable did not seem to detract from the sincerity.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:11 am 
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slyboots wrote:
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Quite true but what kind of things are "getting done". Situations like this lead to a lack of innovation, productivity, and competitiveness. For most members of such an economy it means a much lower standard of living and for many complete misery.

Did you experience it yourself or do you just believe everything you hear on TV?


Easy comrade, you're on our side now. What I am referring to is just common knowledge, a basic law of economics, not something we really debate anymore. Failure to protect intellectual property kills entrepreneurism - that is serious bad news for any economy.

And to answer your question - neither. I have had the good fortune to grow up in a liberal democracy with a market economy so no first hand experience of economic misery. Not heard anything on TV about this (that would make for some seriously boring TV). Learned it studying graduate economics.

And by the way, the North Pole is ours damn it!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:22 am 
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Here is Specialized doing it all over again. That apology was fake! They learned nothing so far.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:12 am 
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Specialized already pulled that. If you look at the date you'll see that it was written before the whole Roubaix thing blew up


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