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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:14 pm 
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+1. Anybody who does not vigorously defend the position that the bike makes a massive difference on a public forum every time he gets a chance obviously doesn't have a wife watching his hobby expenditures...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:14 pm 
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KWalker wrote:
I have power files to prove it. 5mm too high of a saddle or if the drop/reach is off then it can make a big difference for me. Others differ. Some aren't as functional on the bike, which can reduce their efficiency slightly. A 1% drop in gross efficiency can lead to almost 5% drop in power.


there's no way that BMC didn't try to "fix" his position to mimic his older position (if it's even different, we don't know this for sure). after having such a great season 2 years ago, don't you think BMC has tried everything to right the ship? blaming the bike is an oversimplification.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:39 pm 
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I think to suggest that a small difference in position can affect power is missing the original point. The question is whether the same contact points, but with different lengths / angles to achieve this can be a factor.


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But that's a different theory, and would read "can a lackluster season be attributed to the bike fit?" - to which I would certainly agree it can.

Which is not what the OP asked, as he said

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Bike fit affecting power, performance. Bike alone, I struggle to believe it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:12 am 
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The contact points aren't the same though. Cyclingnews failed to actually measure properly. If you plug the setups into stack and reach calculators you come up with the numbers I posted earlier- 40mm more drop and 1cm more reach and a slightly taller saddle height.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:42 am 
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This is not specifically about Gilbert, he's just the example being used.

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I think to suggest that a small difference in position can affect power is missing the original point. The question is whether the same contact points, but with different lengths / angles to achieve this can be a factor.


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Think we need to lock this thread.

He's on fire! :lol:

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