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 Post subject: Road biking in Shanghai
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:33 am 
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Hi,

We are moving to Shanghai per Oct.

Anybody knows if we can bike there???

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:50 am 
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There are many cyclists in Shanghai althought not been there personally.
You could contact the bike shop Chain Sprockets and ask to join any group ride.

http://www.chainssprockets.com/?lang=en

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:20 am 
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Thanks!
Contacted them... good to know there is at least a higher end shop in SH on road bikes... so must be bike able (depending on the smog)....

Lets see what they come up with.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:52 am 
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There are some other high end bike shops but I honestly forgot the names.
If you're keen to race, they have often road races.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:58 pm 
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Peking is also quite far away from Shanghai ;-) A bit too far to bike...
We also can't deny that...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:26 pm 
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I will take my C59 with me to SH!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:53 pm 
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When I visited China (GuangZhou region) my thought was simply: "No way you could ever train in China".

There are zillions of bicycles....all junkers traveling 8 mph; and all the roads are clogged with chaotic traffic of all sorts. You could not ever get up to a "training effort", and even if you did a moped carrying 12 skinned goats would pull out and hit you from the side.
But maybe locals have some secrets. Good luck !
I was there for a month twice. But I completely abandoned any idea of cycling. It was hard enough to go for a jog safely.

In China they definitely DO NOT have the concept of "right of way" (or even "traffic laws"). It is purely "might makes right". There will be no investigation, or lawyers, or police if you get hit. It will just be "your bad karma". So be really cautious!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:05 am 
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Rick, you are right... also my view... but I found some links to real cycling clubs etc in Shanghai... so they do train and even have races!
I will check it out during our pre-visit in 1 week...

Also via Garmin you can see quite a lot of trainings in the middle of Shanghai...
They start very early (0600AM) trainings... nice to see temp go up... start at 29C and end at 0930AM at 42C ;-)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:48 pm 
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Rick, I've been twice to the Guangzhou area and been cycling both times thanks to local friends.
It can be tricky but it's worth to try cause there are some places that normally people wouldnt see.

So at first I would look out for some local cyclists or group rides to go around in safer area. :beerchug:

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I'll be going back again next year. I will try to do some research and make contacts ahead of time. Thanks ! (But I remain skeptical :mrgreen: )


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:36 pm 
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If you are used to cycling desolate US roads and parks places like Shang High and other crowded cities would not be a good experience. On the other hand people that have grown up in such cities they are used to how the traffic flows and are fine with it.

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I have actually been through downtown NYC. I suspect that if you have not been to China you have no idea of what crowded chaos really means :D
Just speculating though. It is completely different than anything in the USA. :beerchug:


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Over crowded is one thing but not following traffic laws is another. I have not been to China but I can tell you some European countries that rival this. Not following traffic laws by motorists might be the fear here.
My friend has been in Shag High for a year and he rode his bike during that period there. He is from NYC and he was not overwhelmed by the setting.

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stella-azzurra wrote:
Over crowded is one thing but not following traffic laws is another.

Yeah. I felt like I could deal with the "overcrowding"; but they don't seem to care at all about traffic laws. Wrong side of the road; cut straight across road; driving on the sidewalks. .....one taxi driver crossed over and drove against traffic ON A DIVIDED HIGHWAY just so he could make better progress. This was with me and other passengers in the taxi! It was a level of total disregard for "law", "courtesy", safety....and even "sanity" that I couldn't comprehend!
Another taxi driver was driving about 60 mph and doing broadslides around ox carts (literally!) on a winding dirt road.
I did all my jogging inside a park. ;)


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