I assume you're referring to the Bernard
The end looks very similar, it's true. Knock off? If you want to call it that, I don't have a choice. I'm actually surprised they're so similar because I had never seen it until trychle posted a link to it, but whatever - Romeo & Juliet's storyline wasn't original either, but no one is going around claiming Shakespeare copied Persian folklore, nor are the Persians claiming they invented the story (even though there's the ongoing joke that Persians invented everything).
I actually sketched up this concept two years ago for another team (I can scan in the notebook pages if you'd like for proof), but it was never used. The idea was pretty much as it was back then: three colors, offset balance, asymmetrical and two slash stripes in parallel (in a previous life this is where the other team's web address was, only enlarging the slashes). The colors were different from what is being used on the WW kit, they were red white & blue for that team. I guess you can call it irony because that team ended up "designing" a complete knockoff of the Leopard Trek jersey which was popular at the time, tops/bottoms/everything... and wait, wasn't the Leopard Trek jersey a knockoff of another jersey? Wasn't that jersey a knockoff of another jersey before it, too?
What's different from the Bernard kit that doesn't make it a knockoff?
-Strategies of text/logo placement.
-Bottoms are different.
-We don't have a hat. Bernard does.
One thing that had to be similar is the arm warmers: since the arms were different on both Bernard kit and WW kit, arm warmers also had to follow... but again, text/logo placement is different.
Apparently the Bernard kit was designed off of an homage to older designs of some sort? This WW design isn't. The original sketch was based on a blown up pattern from some runway posting I saw via the Sartorialist or some other fashion blog I follow years ago. Yes, I like fashion, and my RSS reader has more graphic design & fashion feeds than cycling ones. It's what I'm into. Color blocks and cropped patterns are nothing new, we've been seeing this for decades now.
Did I know about the Bernard kit? No, not until it was brought to my attention by trychle. I don't go around shopping for kits so I'm not paying attention to 'what's out there' beyond what's in the news or out there on the roads. I'm not on Facebook (I left at New Year's 2012), so I wouldn't have seen any links about it if you think it would have been sent to me.
As for why that link was removed: the voting was still happening at the time, and it's been re-linked here.
Again, I can scan in the notebook if you'd like, I have no problem with that. I keep all of my sketchbooks for documentation.
So if you want to call it a 'riff' and claim that the Bernard kit came first, sure, whatever, I really don't care. I know that truthfully that isn't the case, that I did design this on my own without influence from another kit, and I'm fine with that. Calling it a knockoff is a bit interesting though, because you're then saying that they are exactly the same... much like a knockoff Hermes bag can be bought from China and attempts to look the same as the original. This is not the case here.
Question is, who came first? My sketches or their order? And if it really was a knockoff why didn't I do exactly what they did everywhere on the kit? Why didn't I use the same colors? Why isn't the bottom the same? The vest? The striping? Everything else?
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