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Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:51 pm
by Maximilian
Yeah, as had already been said it is because more people play football.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:51 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:08 pm
by tymon_tm
the ultimate sport is no doubt the Himalayan climbing.

not only you need to be fit as hell, have superb technical skills, last weeks-long expeditions, but also be prepared to sacrifice your life (as it was the case with the latest winter conquering of Broad Peak). iron man, cycling, etc. - they're nowhere near as demanding as climbing in probably the most unhospitable and hostile environment on earth. i've nothing but the utmost respect for all of them. oh, and they don't dope..

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:13 pm
by Maximilian
Sorry, mix type. I meant to say that 'football is more physically demanding than cycling' This is, of course, bollocks.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:12 am
by Kasparz
I will throw a sharpened triple crankset to anyone who dare to compare cycling to soccer!

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:23 am
by mattiTWOROADS
apples and oranges...

really...

It's stupid to compare the two. One is pretty much a contact sport and the other isn't. Requires a whole different set of skills and muscle / mental strengths.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:57 am
by KWalker
These people are idiots. Show them a clip of basically any rider ever crashing in a Grand Tour and finishing and then show them a clip of someone overexaggerating a foul. They will have no argument after.

For American football there is no direct comparison. One is a show of strength mixed with coordination, and the other is the ability to suffer for hours on end.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:17 am
by hansonator69
Kasparz wrote:I will throw a sharpened triple crankset to anyone who dare to compare cycling to soccer!

:lol: :goodpost:

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:41 am
by Ghost234
Soccer you can be at 99% and still consistently win games. You can also have a little bit of fat and still perform exceptionally well.


Being 99% in pro cycling usually means missing the key move. 1% drop in power at the pro level is a MASSIVE change in performance. Not to mention that you need to nearly starve yourself to get into race weight. It is disgusting what some climbers have to do to their bodies to lose the pounds.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:55 am
by nathanong87
yea apples to oranges here, but in playing soccer/football most of my life (at a somewhat decent / not-recreational level), i'd certainly say from a physical demand, cycling is 'harder', but (and im sure someone will argue with me), i dont think cycling is a very 'technical' sport. I mean i dont remember many times in soccer that i've been completely bonked or out of breath, but the soccer doesn't really have many situations to deplete ones' aerobic ability to the point of exhaustion on the field. Also, i probably have just as many exterior injuries or more with playing soccer than in cycling... rolled ankles, torn ligaments, charlie horsed muscles, and a decent amount of skin abrasions from slide tackling or getting tackled.

im sure professional soccer players dope but it's probably not as frequent as there isn't a magical thing you can take to suddenly grant you foot/eye coordination and technique.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:21 am
by aerozy
Tell me any other sport where you can break bones and continue on till the end of an event!?

I get a lot of crap about going around in lycra (looking like a sissy) but In my humble opinion there aint any other sport that demands more courage than cycling. It's a man's sport true and true.

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EDIT: Picture shows Robby Hunter that continued racing the tour despite a fracture in his arm :noidea: :unbelievable:

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:28 am
by euan
Its a stupid argument and the validation required in comparing one sport to another is ridiculous.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:02 am
by Biff
tymon_tm wrote:the ultimate sport is no doubt the Himalayan climbing.

not only you need to be fit as hell, have superb technical skills, last weeks-long expeditions, but also be prepared to sacrifice your life (as it was the case with the latest winter conquering of Broad Peak). iron man, cycling, etc. - they're nowhere near as demanding as climbing in probably the most unhospitable and hostile environment on earth. i've nothing but the utmost respect for all of them. oh, and they don't dope..


Most of them take oxygen...That´s a kind of doping.It is a broad selection of people who go there.There are the "Everest tourists" who are on a egotrip and pay to almost get carried to the summit...And then there are the "Real" climbers.But they are´nt all Reinhold Messner´s that´s for sure.Everest has turned into a dump littered with corpses,oxygen bottles,tents and other discarded stuff...Sad really.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:54 pm
by nathanong87
aerozy wrote:Tell me any other sport where you can break bones and continue on till the end of an event!?


a few of my ex soccer teammates have finished matches with broken fingers/broken hands. Also the occasional dislocated shoulders popped back in. I doubt any soccer player or cyclist is going to continue with a broken leg. Had a friend finish without a tooth after being elbowed in the face =\

aerozy wrote: but In my humble opinion there aint any other sport that demands more courage than cycling. It's a man's sport true and true.

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also imho one of the ultimate 'being made fun of because of the way it looks, but physically demanding beyond what many can imagine' is wrestling. not wwf.

lol not arguing with you aerozy but just commenting in the thread and the impossibleness of comparing a sport to sport.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:58 pm
by aerozy
^ You got me on this one hahaha :lol: I now feel like a wimp

EDIT: This guy wouldnt be hanging off a cliff if his arm were broken so my point still stands :up: In cycling you can brake your collar bone, boths arms, ribs and still expect to reach the end of the stage.

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:04 pm
by nathanong87
aerozy wrote:^ You got me on this one hahaha :lol: I now feel like a wimp

EDIT: This guy wouldnt be hanging off a cliff if his arm were broken so my point still stands :up: In cycling you can brake your collar bone, boths arms, ribs and still expect to reach the end of the stage.


lol i think your comment the bone break and courageous points were mutually exclusive to each other. :D

now the discussion is more on sports injuries which isn't really a sign of being physically demanding. I wouldn't include 'bone breakage' into what makes a sport physically demanding

Re: Non-cycling friends: 'pro soccer is harder than pro cycl

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:04 pm
by Weenie

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