HOT: Active* forum members generally gain 5% discount at starbike.com store!
Weight Weenies
* FAQ    * Search    * Trending Topics
* Login   * Register
HOME Listings Blog NEW Articles FAQ Contact About




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 108 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:07 pm
Posts: 652
tinchy wrote:
Ha, even the pros hate these new goofy helmets..

''The talk of the peloton is about these ridiculous “aero” helmets they’re making us wear. I mean … seriously? They always put them on the big name riders first and then they start trickling down to the rest of us. You’ll see Specialized’s new helmet on Boonen right now. They had a great looking helmet and now what what they’ve done? Scott, Lazer, Kask, Uvex … almost all of them have gone backwards. We’re now on these absolutely ridiculous looking Giro helmets now and every iteration is getting worse and worse. ''

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2013/04/the-secret-pro-the-spring-classics/

When there is no story around the "secret pro" steps in.
One of the myths about the teams.
Let's say your team is sponsored by Giro you are free to wear either a "ridiculous" looking aero helmet or some Aeon.
What ever you wear please do not wear these dump black "sun glasses" of the secret pro in the link where you can see only with one eye. :shock:
What ever secret pros and lego playing guys write or think the Giro AA will find its way everywhere where cyclists can be seen.

_________________
Kuota Kom Evo
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=111825&p=955235#p955235" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:44 pm 


Top
  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:22 pm
Posts: 21
Funny, sounds like we'll be seeing a greater proportion of these on self-sponsored riders than pros. At least for a while. My goofy Giro should be here tomorrow.

_________________
“It’s important to understand the ‘aggregation of marginal gains.’" -- David Brailsford

“If you’re a cyclist, you need to have the upper body of a 12-year-old girl and the lower body of a power lifter.” -- Peter Park


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:53 pm
Posts: 871
each to their own I spose


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:22 pm
Posts: 21
Image

My medium came in a touch lighter at 280 grams even. 77 gram savings from the large Ionos I am downsizing from.

_________________
“It’s important to understand the ‘aggregation of marginal gains.’" -- David Brailsford

“If you’re a cyclist, you need to have the upper body of a 12-year-old girl and the lower body of a power lifter.” -- Peter Park


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:17 am
Posts: 600
Location: Latvia
My German made aero road helmet in Size L is 291g(290 claimed), but with papers attached, so probably it's even lighter than claimed. Size M is 260g claimed. Your Giro's are boat anchors.

_________________
Hand made upcycled bicycle tyre belts


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:32 pm
Posts: 7412
Location: Los Angeles / Glendale, California
Kasparz, what helmet? Pictures?

_________________
Exp001 || TeamLACBC


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:53 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:08 am
Posts: 7464
Location: Geeeelong!
Pick the Pro that isn't keen on Classics/flat roads ;)

_________________
http://www.nicksquillari.com.au Forum Jedi


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:17 am
Posts: 600
Location: Latvia
prendrefeu wrote:
Kasparz, what helmet? Pictures?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=106811&start=15#p914201

_________________
Hand made upcycled bicycle tyre belts


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:43 pm
Posts: 245
With minimum ventilation, I may pick up the Air Attack for CX racing. If the aero shaves off .001 watts, I will be happy by the 60-minute mark, lol.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:33 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:17 am
Posts: 600
Location: Latvia
It will save you more watts than your precious carbon wheels with Dugast tubs ;)

_________________
Hand made upcycled bicycle tyre belts


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:30 pm
Posts: 3934
Location: Bay Area
^no, it won't actually. The savings are minimal and assume that a rider has a relatively aero position to begin with. Where your head falls in line with/above/below your torso has a much greater affect on drag than this helmet. Switching from poor to good tires has a bigger effect. Even raising one's bars to reduce the frontal area of the arms has a greater affect.

I know quite a few riders on Giro-sponsored domestic pro teams. They wear the air attack because they're encouraged to do so when they can to satisfy their sponsor. So far this year they've done it in medium to cold weather when sweat isn't an issue. I've seen more unsponsored riders jazzed about this helmet than they are.

_________________
Don't take me too seriously.
Bike
Strava


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:22 pm
Posts: 21
headwind816 wrote:
With minimum ventilation, I may pick up the Air Attack for CX racing. If the aero shaves off .001 watts, I will be happy by the 60-minute mark, lol.


The ventilation is actually pretty good IME. It was 90F/32C out when I used it yesterday, and it seemed just as cool as my Ionos, without all of the wind buffeting I get with the latter. Cooling definitely improves the faster you go as air is forced through the helmet (this feels a little odd, but it works).

However this is the non-visor version -- I expect that the visor version would lose a lot of cooling since the visor blocks the air intakes below the brim. I note that I haven't seen many pros wearing the visor.

I am content with the cooling of the non-visor version and see no need to go back to skeletal helmets. Of course I may eat my words once it gets really hot here. We'll see.

_________________
“It’s important to understand the ‘aggregation of marginal gains.’" -- David Brailsford

“If you’re a cyclist, you need to have the upper body of a 12-year-old girl and the lower body of a power lifter.” -- Peter Park


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:32 pm
Posts: 7412
Location: Los Angeles / Glendale, California
Cat6TT: quick question because it related to the 'cooling' affect you are feeling... How much hair do you have on the top of your head? (In all honesty)

Just asking because I've read plenty of reviews in the press on helmets' cooling and venting, but all the testers seem to be bald (shaved to compensate for hair loss/thinning or already fully bald). Those of us with thicker lock of hair may feel less of that 'cooling effect' ?

_________________
Exp001 || TeamLACBC


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:30 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:07 pm
Posts: 652
Cat6TT wrote:
headwind816 wrote:
With minimum ventilation, I may pick up the Air Attack for CX racing. If the aero shaves off .001 watts, I will be happy by the 60-minute mark, lol.

However this is the non-visor version -- I expect that the visor version would lose a lot of cooling since the visor blocks the air intakes below the brim. I note that I haven't seen many pros wearing the visor.
I am content with the cooling of the non-visor version and see no need to go back to skeletal helmets. Of course I may eat my words once it gets really hot here. We'll see.


I have noticed that the shield version has been seen in two different visor designs.
One version has some air intake holes in the shield
here http://www.artscyclery.com/videos/index ... ode=GAASH3
and the other has no air intake
here http://www.artscyclery.com/descpage-GAASH3.html
Not sure if the air intakes are for a clear visor or free the way for the air intake in front of the helmet as shown in the original Giro video on their website.
Let's wait and see which visor design the end product has.

_________________
Kuota Kom Evo
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=111825&p=955235#p955235" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:22 pm
Posts: 21
Ah, yes -- we will see.

_________________
“It’s important to understand the ‘aggregation of marginal gains.’" -- David Brailsford

“If you’re a cyclist, you need to have the upper body of a 12-year-old girl and the lower body of a power lifter.” -- Peter Park


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:47 pm 


Top
  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 108 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

   Similar Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Attachment(s) SwiftCarbon Attack 14 -FRB build

in Introduce Yourself / Gallery - Please use metric weights.

Cals

12

2749

Sat May 31, 2014 6:50 am

istigatrice View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Reynolds attack or zipp 202 firecrest

[ Go to page: 1, 2, 3 ]

in Road

GregSherwin

39

3462

Thu May 08, 2014 7:06 am

mattyNor View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Reynolds 32 2013 Vs Attack 2014, which one?

in Road

eckhous

6

975

Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:17 am

eckhous View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Giro Synthe

in Cycle Chat

shoemakerpom2010

5

987

Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:09 pm

shoemakerpom2010 View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. WTB: Giro Empire ACC - Sz 43

in Wanted

dmoneysworks

0

48

Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:01 am

dmoneysworks View the latest post


It is currently Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:17 am

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Advertising   –  FAQ   –  Contact   –  Convert   –  About

© Weight Weenies 2000-2013
hosted by starbike.com


How to get rid of these ads? Just register!


Powered by phpBB