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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:45 pm 
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While I agree with everything else the venerable fdegrove says, I have to say that Belgium is not even up in my top five of best culinary cultures.


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:12 pm 
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Come on, we are cyclists. Italian food is king. Sorry for the OFF!


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:03 pm 
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Come on, we are cyclists. Italian food is king. Sorry for the OFF!


If you believe in pasta, that is...... :P

Anyhow, ;) :beerchug:

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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:47 pm 
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ave wrote:
Come on, we are cyclists. Italian food is king. Sorry for the OFF!

How can you utter such heresy? In the week between De Ronde & Paris Roubaix?

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Achel Blond
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Chimay Bleue
Chimay Rouge
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Rochefort 6
Rochefort 8
Rochefort 10
Westmalle Dubbel
Westmalle Tripel
Westmalle Extra
Westvleteren 6
Westvleteren 8
Westvleteren 12
Abbey
Abbaye d'Aulne Blonde des Pères
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Abbaye d'Aulne Triple Blonde
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Abbaye de Cambron
Abbaye de Malonne Blonde
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Abbaye des Rocs 9°
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Abbaye des Templiers
Abdij van Roosenberg Blond
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PS - I'm an Italophile


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:10 am 
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Already said to the Mrs that in a few years Im taking off to Europe for spring/summer and simply following the racing across the continent
From the spring classics to the Grand Tours. Told her not to call me and dont expect a call from me. Maybe an email or seeing me running half naked up some Col on telly!


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:23 am 
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Hi,

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PS - I'm an Italophile


Tu quoque fili mi? :mrgreen:

Frites, anyone?

Ciao, ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:12 am 
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If it's anything to go by:

Belgium: 11 million people, 107 Michelin stars (3x three stars, 15x two stars, 89x one star)
Italy: 61 million people, 292 Michelin stars (7, 38, 250)

Means one star for every 209,000 Italians but one star for every 103,000 Belgians. So Belgium is almost twice as culinary as Italy ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:56 am 
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But are the Flemish Belgians better cooks than the French Belgians? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:51 am 
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Location: BELGIUM
as from 2013
3 stars - 3 flemish
2 stars = 10 flemish / 3 brussels / 3 walloon
1 star = 58 flemish / 11 brussels / 23 walloon
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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:37 am 
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fdegrove wrote:
Belgium is cycling, soccer, beer brewing, probably the best food in the world too, add beer and chocolate as well. We're not chauvinistic about it at all but once you're here you'll notice a small country with a very big heart.




LOL ... would you be Belgian by any chance? :wink:

Most beautiful women also.


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:21 pm 
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Don't forget Spa Franchorchamps, dammit what a beautiful race track!


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:05 pm 
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Timo wrote:
If it's anything to go by:

Belgium: 11 million people, 107 Michelin stars (3x three stars, 15x two stars, 89x one star)
Italy: 61 million people, 292 Michelin stars (7, 38, 250)

Means one star for every 209,000 Italians but one star for every 103,000 Belgians. So Belgium is almost twice as culinary as Italy ;)


The appeal of Italian cuisine is you can get great food pretty much down any alley in whatever town. There's more to culinary adventures than eating at michelin restaurants.

But Belgian beer is king no matter who says what :D


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:44 pm 
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russianbear wrote:
Timo wrote:
If it's anything to go by:

Belgium: 11 million people, 107 Michelin stars (3x three stars, 15x two stars, 89x one star)
Italy: 61 million people, 292 Michelin stars (7, 38, 250)

Means one star for every 209,000 Italians but one star for every 103,000 Belgians. So Belgium is almost twice as culinary as Italy ;)


The appeal of Italian cuisine is you can get great food pretty much down any alley in whatever town. There's more to culinary adventures than eating at michelin restaurants.

But Belgian beer is king no matter who says what :D


I would agree with you on both counts Russianbear. Away from the clip joints that is all most ever see of Italy, the most unprepossessing places in Italy delight, often at astonishingly low prices.

Michelin Star and corporate BS in Brussels. Been there done that. No thank you.

Agree Belgium is right up at the top on beer :beerchug:


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 Post subject: Re: Uh...Belgium?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:45 pm 
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Hi,

sawyer wrote:
fdegrove wrote:
Belgium is cycling, soccer, beer brewing, probably the best food in the world too, add beer and chocolate as well. We're not chauvinistic about it at all but once you're here you'll notice a small country with a very big heart.




LOL ... would you be Belgian by any chance? :wink:

Most beautiful women also.


According to Jules Destree* there's no such thing as a Belgian. I tend to agree as Belgium is not about Belgians. It's about Flanders and its Flemish people and Wallonia which has its own ethnicity and culture.
Most things cycling related happen in Flanders. Wallonia has, to put it bluntly, been sitting on its glorified behind for the past fifty years thinking the coal mines would last forever. Sounds familiar?

Politics and history aside, yes I'm Belgian. Yet more than anything else I'm Flemish and very proud of it too.
Having been the battle field of Europe for centuries in a row has pretty much defined our personality. We all are the children of our invadors.
From the Spanish through the Portuguese, French or Dutch, Austrian, you name it, all of them fought their battles in Flanders Fields. Not to mention WWI and WWII.

All of these continuous battles forged a people. No matter how small in number, that had to keep its head down all the time, that were suppressed all the time.
That's also how out of the brazing ashes of the battlefields heroes arose. People with very little means stood up and fought back. Racing. Be that a bicycle or using boxing gloves, they carved their name for Flanders Fields. The battle fields.

Races such as the Tour of Flanders are nothing more than us fighting back, defending our territory. Paris-Roubaix is all about regaining our territory; French Flanders. It's ours, it has no place being part of France, it is populated by Flemish people, it breaths Flanders.
It does put PR in a different respective I guess but to us, Flemish, winning PR is winning back what belongs to us.

Tournee generale ?

Ciao, ;)

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Flanders is amazing was there last week, everyone had a view on the race and most got it right with cancellara first Sagan second. The kwaremont is an amazing place sadly I had a minibus rather than a bike

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