Yes, the castelli small is too big in the legs and they ride up a lot causing more friction im assuming as they bunch.

I have really skinny legs...

You could try using Aqueous Cream (generic term, there are lots of companies that sell it), it's available in most pharmacies. I think it's just an emulsion of water a paraffin wax and completely unscented. It's also a fraction of the cost of branded chamois creams.

Try to shower as soon as you get off the bike and wash down there with an antibacterial soap like phisohex or similar (it is the stuff they wash with at hospitals).

I don't mean to state the obvious, but did you throughly wash all your shorts (perhaps 2-3 times) to get them as free as possible form previous chamois cream and previous detergent.

I'm sure you did, but I thought I would ask.

If not, I would:

-Wash everything 2-3 times in hypoallergenic detergent (on the "2nd rinse" option, if your machine has that option; so it rinses twice)
-Use Vasaline (nott too much) (it's about as hypoallergenic & detergent free as possible) (Wash only your shorts together, to avoid issues with other clothing)
Then:
----give it a try after you are healed

I use Vasiline because of a reccomendation from a current Pro team Dr. who said to use it becasue, "it dosen't have all the perfumes and dyes etc...".

Best of luck.

P.S. The only problem is:
If it is an actual allergy to the creams or detergent and if it won't come out well in the wash, you may never get a solution, as long as you use you current shorts.

But then you have to buy all new shorts, and it is unknown if that is the actual problem/solution, even though it could be.
That is the difficulty in this type of diagnosis....you know...

Have you tried riding without chamois cream?

I recommend 2nd rinse on bike clothes no matter what. As a side note, any waterproof gear will keep its repellency much longer with that procedure.
Lots of people prefer to ride without cream...

I was thinking about this and remembered that I once had a similar issue. It was a fungus. Doc gave me a prescription ointment that cured it quickly.

Like everyone has mentioned the fragrances may be quite stuck to the bibs. I had to throw my old ones away. For the record I washed them countless times with no luck.

Best thing is to just buy new bibs and start from scratch.

Also the "emulsion of water a paraffin wax " use as a chamois is a great tip. I use this stuff and never, never get allergy reactions with it. Best of all Ive stopped getting saddle sores completely as well even in +5hour rides. Funny thing is that there is no anti-bacterial in it... like most chamois brands like to publicise so vehemently. Plus it costs 2£ in your local boots pharmacy.

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I cant seem to find the "emulsion of water a paraffin wax " in my local drugstore. does anyone have any name brands in the US that make it?

It sounds a lot like Squirt chain lube.

my 2 cents: try woolite. do a double rinse. skip the chamois cream altogether -- if the shorts fit right you shouldn't need it. pick up some lotrimin and apply to affected areas after post-ride shower (in case it is fungal).

good luck.

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... Basically, it's a lotion.
The term came from a prior post in this thread:



and here's a Google Shopping link to get you started, friend.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Aqueous ... m&tbm=shop

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i went out to central park for a few laps this morning and noticed that my tights are way too loose. when i get out of the saddle to pedal i can feel the chamois moving around loosely. These are castelli thermal tights in small that have been worn less than 4 times and have only been hand washed. i'm beginning to think this is a lot of the problem as the chamois is moving too much and causing friction all over.

that would do it

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