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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:32 am 
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Hello all,
I am hoping to get a bit of an idea as to your favourite Tuning tools that you use?
Im hoping people like Weeracerweenie, Gumgardner and Donald to name a few may be able to give imput into what their favourite peices of equipment might be for tuning their rides. :)
Die Grinder, what type and size and or shape die grinder bits you may use? E.G. Tungsten 8mm-12mm round head on 3mm or 6mm shaft for instance? :noidea:
Files maybe, sandpaper? what grades you find useful.
Basically any handy tips you have found. I can see by your rides that you know what you are doing.
I am keen to start tuning my rides best I can. 8)
I started have a crack at my bike with a 3mm head on 3mm shaft but finding a bigger head maybe be better 10mm? :noidea:

Thank you
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:21 am 
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Dremel/Rotary Tool Bits in order of use:
-Tungsten Carbide Cutter(s) - part #s 9911, 9901
-Cut-off Wheels, Heavy Duty
--pro-tip: when the wheels get small, save them to use later on for tight spaces.
-Buffing/Polishing set (any brand, cheaper is fine)
-Grinding set (any brand, cheaper is fine)
-The extension is very useful. Use it.

Misc:
-Cobalt Drill Bit set (various sizes, smaller bits can be used with the rotary tool)
-Set of hand-held files for metal alloys
-Sandpaper (various grits from 230 up to 1600)
-3M 2601 Sanding Pads
-Acetone
-sandblaster

most importantly, for me anyway:
-paper, pen, ink, maybe computer for precision/replicable work
-time
-patience
-looking beyond what you have in front of you. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:07 am 
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Cheers mate,
Some great tips there.
Now to them to work :)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:34 am 
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No problem. The above list is really the 'basics' I would say and used for most tuning projects of existing products.

Once you progress on to the really making your own stuff level, you'll want to invest in a milling machine and perhaps a lathe. :wink:

I've also found that a Tap and Die set to be quite useful on occasion, but for quality sets tend to be costly. For most purposes if you need to tap a new hole or create a new thread on something you can purchase the exact tool you need rather than the set.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:55 am 
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Needle file set, preferably with diamond abrasive surfaces. They are not picky with direction, will work into any material, and take a lot longer to wear. Even cheap sets like from HarborFreight are fine.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:17 pm 
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Wax, water and wood.
Using a product like Walter Alucut (or candle wax out here in the jungle) on grinding discs or abrasive drums keeps the aluminium from packing up on them. Soapstone helps to keep files free. Using a file card (a special stiff wire brush) as you work will help immensely to keep files and discs cutting cleanly.
When removing a lot of material or shaping, it helps to frequently cool the workpiece in a container of cool water.
Complex shapes can be difficult to hold. I like to use countersunk screws to hold odd shapes to a softwood or plywood base which can then in turn be clamped or screwed in the required position. The more firmly anchored the workpiece, the more efficient the material removal as energy is not dispersed into unnecessary movement.
As I currently do not have a cnc mill at my disposal, I have blanks machined from aluminium then shape by hand.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:04 pm 
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Cheers fella's,
I haven't bought a tap and die yet because of cost also, but have bought the exact piece as I have also needed. :)
A needle file set will be next on my list I think, along with a set of small screwdrivers, (tried attacking, I mean tuning :o
My new XTR shiters last night, but didnt have small enough screwies).
Milling cnc and lathe will have to go on the back burner for now, as I dont have anywhere to hide them from my wife. :)
I do have a sizable bunch of tools that I have collected over the years, but they are big and more for working on our cars and trucks than they are for bicycles.
Keep the tips coming. They are much appreciated.

Austke

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:39 pm 
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15" copper pipe sawed in quarters on one end to remove head sets.

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threaded rod, washers and bolt to press the headset.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:47 am 
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+1 :beerchug:
Thanks Stella. Thats an awesome tip. I wont tell how I may have done it in the past. Lol

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:32 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:43 am 
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Nice tuning tools Juanmoretime!!! I think we'd all like a tool box full of them :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:19 am 
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Chain peening took for Campy 11 speed. Park Tool version which is about $100 cheaper but performs just as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:38 am 
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Dremel, of course, but also cheap metric tap and drill bit set (aluminium is more forgiving of these lower end items). Angle grinder with sanding discs and belt sander. Great for quick stock removal and producing nice flat surfaces. Wire wheel for my bench grinder. Removes old finishes in seconds. And files, the more the merrier, great for rough and near finished shaping. Especially like round and triangular ones.
Those are a few I use the most. But the usual suspects are anything I have available, for the imagination is the most vital tool!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:52 am 
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I have found that my smallest drill bits break so easily, So I now have heaps of large bits, and no small drill bits, I put it down to not using a drill press, for small drilling. Been hand drilling and snapping my small bits, so that has been a lesson to be learnt for me personally. I will now use our work drill press for the more delicate stuff.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:52 am 
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At work using a drill press can be a PITA. I have one of these and it works very well. I bought it to drill out an alloy cassette but use it pretty frequently.


http://www.simsupply.com/p-51249-drill- ... MgodQ2MAxg

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