Not sure what you are trying to say by your comment. Seems a little odd that you gloss over all the other doping in cycling, but LA was the last straw on the camel's back? I just don't get it. "He said 'Lance is on it'. I said if he's on it the sport is over for me. And he was. Screw you Lance." Obviously you are making a poor example to make a point. There are plenty of dopers prior to LA and after that you could have used to quite on the sport. Why LA? Let me guess, you really thought he was clean and are now completely shocked and feel like he lied to you?

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It was all Johan! He made them do it!
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/usada-b ... ams-doping

Poor Zabriskie

A little something to lighten up the mood.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2012/10/10/lance-armstrong-doping-tour-de-france/1625773/

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Can't find it now but someone posted mocking the evidence and challenging the assertion that Armstrong pressured other riders into doping. Something along the lines of "where is the evidence of the evil Armstrong chasing riders with bags of blood?" The coward probably deleted it before I could quote.

Well how about here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/sport ... wanted=all

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Found this comment on the National Post website. Pretty much tells you all you need to know about the average Joe. And it's a Canadian publication - damn:

Testimonies? Anyone can lie for a price...How do we know Tygart and his pals didn't find some money somewhere to get these people to lie (they weren't under oath). The bottom line is this: there is NO proof from any of the drug tests and Armstrong was the most drug tested athlete in HISTORY. No proof. None. Just "testimonies" which are not under oath. WHo cares if Armstrong was arrogant and full of himself. He never failed a single drug test. Case closed.

If UCI bends its knee to USADA over some jealous teammate "testimonies" and strips Armstrong of his titles, I will be sick at what "justice" has become and cycling, not to mention sport in general will be forever harmed ...Innocent until proven guilty apparently doesn't appear to apply...it's innocent until accused apparently.

Some people just HAVE TO BELIEVE in Armstrong's wrong doing, despite the overwhelming lack of evidence.

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Can I get a refund on my planned purchase? Trek dealer is down the street from me and causing anxiety every time I see a Trek logo now so can I get compensation on that one too?

Some people will never believe that Lance, and other professionals doped, but whatever....I don't really even care anymore. Old fart like me doesn't really need idols or motivation other than the fatty dude staring back at me in the mirror.

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Yes is was wondering about that. Is there a statue of limitations that would apply?

Definitely a case of intentional infliction of emotional distress. Yes, you are a victim.


This updated version of Juliet Macur's article (presumedly for the front page of tomorrow's NY Times) is particularly good.

But this has to be the best bit:

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O.k., Ghost234 did say most, not all of the riders (I didn't find his quote at the time of my posting).

They were all handcuffed to a radiator and injected with EPO and other stuff. Of course they were resisting to it.
And they were all forced to play happy while winning races and receiving money for it. They all threw the prize-money into the river after the ceremony.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, they couldnt see themselves into the mirror. I really wonder if they can do it now...

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US Postal/Discovery team was the ONLY team that was doping!!!!!! All other teams were riding clean or doping a LOT LESS.

Omega Pharma also distancing from Leipheimer because they are against doping. From which year on are they against it?
Hasnt Museeuw rode for them....?

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I didn't belittle it. I just don't care about his battle with cancer. He later used his illness as a shield behind which he could do whatever he wanted from a PR perspective, and it worked wonderfully. Politicians do this stuff, too, as do most narcissists. And the gullible fall for it. Many people are cancer survivors; does that excuse what he did?


This makes no sense whatsoever. You sure this is not an Ali-G line?


That they didn't have his doping program? Who knows? What is your point?

Again, impossible to say. What is known is that US Postal and Armstrong ran the most comprehensive and complex doping operation in cycling. That would seem to provide a clear advantage. But again, you stray from the facts -- the reason Armstrong is being punished more harshly than others, is that he still insists he did not dope. Even you seem to think he did dope, so I am having trouble understanding what your point is.

This is a bit precious considering they are sponsored by a pharmaceutical company.

Anyways, I'm glad this is done. Pro cycling existed before Lance Armstrong and co, and will keep on existing after Lance Armstrong and co.

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Shouldn't that read... "doping in Pro cycling existed before Lance Armstrong and co, and will keep on existing after Lance Armstrong and co."

Yes, yes it should. Let's hope more cheats are caught in a shorter time span than what this case has dragged on to be.

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