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ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:34 pm
by kavitator
maby there was a topic about that
Are they better than mavics Cosmic SL?
hubs durability? bearings? low stiffness (or it is just for 404 tubular version)?
thx
ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:34 pm
by Weenie
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Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:31 pm
by cnbky
yes, used both and 404s much better by all of those accounts. However, more expensive (tho there are some pretty good deals at the moment with the whole firecrest & CC range being the 'better' ones)
Neither are super stiff still, but the cosmics would swing like wind shield wipers under heavy stress...
Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:40 am
by kavitator
i had the opposite experience.
Maby zipp on my ride has loosen spokes
I race on cosmics sl for some time and they were stiff (until rim crack- i think spokes has too much tension after servis)
so zipp clinchers8alu rim) are stiff and durable?
Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:41 pm
by PoorCyclist
I ran the 2011 404 alum for few hundred miles they are pretty good. No problems so far, easy to install tires.
I feel they make the hub very light and not sure if this is a problem long term. My Shimano C50 is about 200g more, where did Zipp take the weight out? Hub, alum freehub body, and the carbon seems a bit thinner than Shimano. However the 188/88 hub is probably the best one they have made so far.
Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:41 pm
by kavitator
thx!
Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:35 pm
by ave
>My Shimano C50 is about 200g more, where did Zipp take the weight out?
My C50s is 1710g with base tape.
Zipp says 1662g for the 404 alu clinchers, my guess that's without tape.
Where does the 200g you mention come from?
Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:41 pm
by PoorCyclist
ave wrote:>My Shimano C50 is about 200g more, where did Zipp take the weight out?
My C50s is 1710g with base tape.
Zipp says 1662g for the 404 alu clinchers, my guess that's without tape.
Where does the 200g you mention come from?
RS-80 with a heavier hub (mainly steel freehub vs Ti) and wider spokes.
Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:41 pm
by Weenie
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Re: ZIPP 404 clincher (aluminium body)
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:50 pm
by kavitator
zipp are really nice bulid. I got in hand 2012 series.
just spoke tension is little low
And intresting rear one has radial lacing on drive side , 1x on non drive side.
