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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:12 pm 
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Hi All,

This is in reference to Bontragers new "Pro" (cheaper) version, not the top of the range Aeolus 3 TLR

I have the option of buying a Brand new Pro 3 TLR or Zipp 404 firecrest (with v9 hub, 2016). I have used the Zipp's before, and had no real issue with them - but i was considering something lighter and shallower.

I know exactly how the Zipps braking feels, which i don't mind - not bad! However i can't find ANYTHING online about these new bontrager wheels.

Does anyone have any real world experiences with these new wheels? Wet and Dry braking? I assume the Dry is fine - interested in wet more! thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:29 pm 
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No experience to help you really, but my old shop sold these. I personally ride the top end Aeolus 3's, and think they are fantastic wheels. The Aeolus Pro's were a pretty popular wheel. They have exact same shape as the Aeolus, with a more defined/textured brake track. They are super heavy though, and the hubs are just ok.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:30 am 
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wheelbuilder wrote:
No experience to help you really, but my old shop sold these. I personally ride the top end Aeolus 3's, and think they are fantastic wheels. The Aeolus Pro's were a pretty popular wheel. They have exact same shape as the Aeolus, with a more defined/textured brake track. They are super heavy though, and the hubs are just ok.


Oh cool, how do you find these wheels in terms of braking? I couldn't quite find anything online about them, but they seem to have a slightly textured braking surface. With black prince pads, how would they fair vs. a set of zipps? I assume better!

I have a brand new pair of ENVE 4.5's with CK45 that i am getting rid of, it's my second warranty replacement on these wheels and i just keep busting spokes.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:39 am 
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Can't help with that. I've not ridden the Aeolus Pro's. I would guess that they have a little more bite and probably perform a little better than the Regular Aeolus. Mine are good in the dry but not exceptional by any means. Similar to all the others with smooth, non-dedicated brake track. I use cork pads on mine because appearance is super important to me, and the brake track remains pristine. I have found that the black prince mar up the carbon surface, but I do use those in the mist/rain. I then re install the cork and it will clean up the brake track back to new in a couple of weeks. Trek, while making some pretty crappy house brand products, does the Aeolus wheels right. I imagine they put quite a bit of thought into the Pro's you are considering. They are priced right to be sure, and you will backed by a huge company that stands behind their stuff for the most part. I would get them. Just don't expect them to be light.

edit to add.......we had a customer who ordered these when they first became available. He was so unbelievably excited to be getting on a pair of carbon wheels. It was his dream and you could just feel his anticipation. When they came in he was absolutely devastated that they were a couple of hundred grams heavier than his Pacenti and King wheels. Like shattered his dreams devastated. It was painful to watch.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:07 am 
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wheelbuilder wrote:
Can't help with that. I've not ridden the Aeolus Pro's. I would guess that they have a little more bite and probably perform a little better than the Regular Aeolus. Mine are good in the dry but not exceptional by any means. Similar to all the others with smooth, non-dedicated brake track. I use cork pads on mine because appearance is super important to me, and the brake track remains pristine. I have found that the black prince mar up the carbon surface, but I do use those in the mist/rain. I then re install the cork and it will clean up the brake track back to new in a couple of weeks. Trek, while making some pretty crappy house brand products, does the Aeolus wheels right. I imagine they put quite a bit of thought into the Pro's you are considering. They are priced right to be sure, and you will backed by a huge company that stands behind their stuff for the most part. I would get them. Just don't expect them to be light.

edit to add.......we had a customer who ordered these when they first became available. He was so unbelievably excited to be getting on a pair of carbon wheels. It was his dream and you could just feel his anticipation. When they came in he was absolutely devastated that they were a couple of hundred grams heavier than his Pacenti and King wheels. Like shattered his dreams devastated. It was painful to watch.


haha thanks for the long reply, i actually meant how are the Aeolus D3, not the pro, as there's a second hand pair of Aeolus 5 D3 TLR wheels (not the pro) for sale too, but i also don't know anything about those!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:49 am 
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They brake fine for me, and I use them as my only wheelset. Panic stops, long descents, and latex tubes are no problem at all. Tubeless set-up is really easy with the rim strip and they are light and stiff. DT Aerolites are trouble free, and the Alpina Hex nipples are easy to turn either via spoke wrench externally, or 5.5 nut driver internally. Hubs are carbon shelled DT 180's with great performance and engagement. Easy to service. I have 6,000 miles on mine with no external/internal or cosmetic damage, and the bearings are still smooth and tight. I service the freehub every six months. Really nice wheels. If you are used to carbon wheels, braking won't be a problem.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:45 am 
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How was the wet weather braking? Tried zipps?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:51 am 
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I went from Enve 4.5’s to 5 D3 TLR’s. Braking on latter is very comparable if not quieter and slightly better compared to Enve in both wet and dry IF you use Black Prince pads.

The cork pads were silent and great in the dry but ineffectual in the wet.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:36 pm 
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1200 USD wheelset matches a enve at 3K . enve's business model not going to work anymore

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