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by Marin

Hmmm ok.

How on earth do you "feel" a hub?

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by Marin

Lighter spokes rear left will build a more durable wheel btw.

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F45
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by F45

It will build a less laterally stiff wheel. Therefore it would be less durable.

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I have stopped doing differntial spoking as it does nothing to improve a wheel. The arguements used are junk

Stiffer wheel result in longer spoke life skmple as that. You do not make wheels stiffer by jsing thinner spokes.

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by Calnago

The thinner spokes on the non drive side really just allow for more elongation of the spoke itself at the same tension, correct? This can be argued to have some benefit in that they are less likely to go slack, which is the real cause of failure and breakage. So, if the wheel is built with relatively uneven tensions on the non drive side, this may have some benefit. I've experimented with this on my own wheels, and I've found I like using DT Comps on a basic wheel, both drive side and non drive side. But I do take extra care to make sure the non drive spokes are as evenly tensioned as possible, and no problem. I tend to feel that the thicker DT comp spokes (versus Revolutions), do make the wheel more laterally stiff, and I'm a bigger guy, so I like that. Also, my standard build would be a Record 32 hole hub laced to an Ambrosio Nemesis rim. The clearance you get between the spokes and the rear derailleur is really minimal with a combo like that (deeper profile rims have a steeper bracing angle, and thus slightly more clearance at that crucial junction). I experimented with drive side pulling spokes laced heads in versus heads out, paying particular attention to the clearance at the derailleur. As a result, I've settled on drive side spokes laced heads out (3x pattern), so that in the event of a high torque pedal stroke in the lowest gear, the spokes are least likely to end up in your derailleur, from simple high torque pedaling forces at least. Pretty common practice I think.
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any123
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by any123

Hello to everyone

it is time to say thank you and share some pictures, i finished my wheelset.
It is amazing light, 498g the front wheel and 662g the rear wheel. this is going to be my mountain set.
by the way, tje spokelength was perfect, thanks for the support.

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F45
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by F45

I think 1160g is the lightest carbon clincher I've seen posted here. Nice.

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svendsvin
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by svendsvin

F45 wrote:...CN 494s for the rear..


Remember these spokes are 3mm wide so need keyhole hubs (or some diy dremmeling...)

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by Multebear

Looks great @any123, and the weight is very impressive. Well done :thumbup:

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by kode54

@any123, great job. looks good.
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by ooo

How thick are concave sapim nrhm washers? Do I need to add extra to calculated spoke length for this washers?

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by long19000

Have anyone tried the Carbon-ti X-hub (straightpull) before?
How're they comparing to Tune king/kong?

How does the freewheel sound? (I tend to like quiet hub.)

I'm thinking of a Carbon-ti X-hub (straightpull) + DT XR331 27.5 + Sapim cx ray.
What weight should I be expecting and do you think it's a good built?

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Nice hubs. Load freehub and the hubs are very simple to maintain. No funny thin washer to adjust preload, the have a thumbwheel preload adjuster.

Light reliable and simple hubs. I would not touch tune hubs too fiddly for my liking.

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by long19000

bm0p700f wrote:Nice hubs. Load freehub and the hubs are very simple to maintain. No funny thin washer to adjust preload, the have a thumbwheel preload adjuster.

Light reliable and simple hubs. I would not touch tune hubs too fiddly for my liking.


Is the freehub quiet?

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