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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:07 pm 
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Again, this is nothing new guys.

It is, quite literally, a years old decision.


Also at no point did I say every tubular question would be merged in here. In fact, there are tubular threads out on the road forum that I left there specifically so they can be found easily later on. One merge and suddenly past knowledge and logic is suspended? I'm amazed.


fdegrove, I've mentioned your offer to Frankie. You might be joining the thankless world of moderating :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Also at no point did I say every tubular question would be merged in here. In fact, there are tubular threads out on the road forum that I left there specifically so they can be found easily later on. One merge and suddenly past knowledge and logic is suspended? I'm amazed.


Sure. The objection mainly stems from wheel related questions being merged into a tubular tyre specific thread IMO. That, to my mind at least, does not make much sense.

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Looking forward to putting my masochistic streak to good use.... :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:04 am 
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I have a new set of carbon rims and one of each tube Vittoria Mastik One and Continental Aluminium Rim cement.
Is it ok to mix them and use on carbon rims, will I notice any difference or damage the carbon rim with glue designed to be used on aluminium? I've just gone "tubeless" recently and have no experience whatsoever with glue type and usage


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:18 am 
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Hi,

Welcome to WW and tubulars. 8)

If by "mix" you mean using a tube of Mastik One for one wheel and Continental for the other then, yes, that would work just fine. Just respect the instructions as per manufacturer of the respective cement.
In general Conti's cement cures quite a bit faster than Mastik One so keep that in mind.

More detailed instructions can be found towards the top of this thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:37 am 
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Thanks :)
I was thinking about using Mastik for rims and Continental for the tires. Or should I go Mastik on one and the Conti Alu glue on other?


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No need to quote previous post. PP


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:47 am 
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Do rim and tire with Mastik for one wheel, and rim and tire for the other wheel with Continental. You would be a little better off doing both wheels and spare tire with the same glue - that way, you could use the spare on either wheel and have the same glue on tire and rim.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:48 am 
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Or should I go Mastik on one and the Conti Alu glue on other?


One wheel + tyre Mastik One, the other one + tyre Conti cement.

It's not a good idea to mix various brands of cement.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:30 am 
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Tinea Pedis wrote:
...And Frankie not having a submission from either of you two to be mod's and help keep this place clean.
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well, i really hadn't known there was a modding shortage, but maybe i could help out - if you're interested (or desperate :-) ) let me know what's involved


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:24 pm 
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Hi everybody, just received my first pair of tubular wheels, hypernon ultra 2 way. I have ordered vittoria corsa evo cx and Pave evo cg. I would like the nicest ride possible as I have never ridden on tubulars, but the weather in the UK is rubbish it's been raining pretty much constant all week. I don't plan to ride these wheels in the wet, but would lie to ride them throughout winter, weather permitting.
Would it be better to fit the pave evo cg for winter use given their grip and puncture protection as British road in the countryside are pretty rubbish. Any advice on theses or any other tubulars would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:31 pm 
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Pavè CG for UK winter seems like a good idea to me. The Veloflex Roubaix/Arenberg is a good alternative.
There are several reports of a Dr. Jeckyll & Mr. Hyde dry/wet behaviour from the Evo CX, so they might not be a first choice for those moist UK summers.

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As an alternative, glue-up the CX for the front and the CG for the rear. That will be a good, all-weather set-up. In the rain and snow of winter, together with the grime and grit that gets onto the pads and rims, I would probably recommend a hard-anodized alloy rim, instead.


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Kjetil & Geoff - thanks for the advice. Deep down the pave GC seems the most sensible choice. I only plan to ride the wheels only when the road are very dry, no doubt their will be a lot of road debri especially if I ride through the Peak District. I will probably save the corsa evo cx for spring and summer as I'm based in Nottingham and Campan (midi Pyrenees). Much smoother and cleaner roads in France.

Cheers.


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Another good choice for all-weather use would be the SC.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:14 pm 
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The pave GC arrived today and are now on the wheels stretching overnight. I was surprised how easy they were to mount and centre. I'm basing this on by ensuring their is equal amount of basetape showing on either side of the rim. I hope it is easy when I do it for real. Gluing starts tomorrow.
Next tub order will be some veloflex carbon (for next spring/summer) as a number of user on here really rate them.

This is the most interesting thread on weight weenies.
Cheers :thumbup:


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Be careful about assuming that the basetape is on straight. You should always check to confirm that the tread is straight. Hold the wheel by the skewers and spin it slowly. Look down the tread and then you'll see if it is actually straight.


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