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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:51 pm 
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Hi,

I'm looking for a new do-it-all-wheelset. Weighing 60kgs i'm pretty light. I do mostly ride in nice weather.
Rims will be Pacenti SL23 2015 laced with Sapim CX-ray and sprint spokes.
But i don't know what hubs to use:
Tune Mig 70/Mag170 or White Ind T11 with the custom body from WheelTec:
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The Tune hubs are more than 100 grams lighter. They need some more maintenance, but given my weight and the circumstances i'm riding in, i don't know if i need all the durability that the T11 offers...
Oh, i don't have any troubles of cassettes digging into the body, so the Ti body of the White Ind isn't that important for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:08 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:11 pm 
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Not at all. Only performance (in the widest meaning of the word: weight, stifness, durability,... )
What is the best allround hub for a light rider

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:38 pm 
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Stockie wrote:
Not at all. Only performance (in the widest meaning of the word: weight, stifness, durability,... )
What is the best allround hub for a light rider


White hubs are heavier, but they have wider-spaced flanges so you will get a stiffer wheel with them. They're much easier to service, too, and with a Ti freehub have a much diminished propensity to get gouged.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:13 pm 
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Flange spacing between WIT11 and Tune are almost identical. Rear can use the same spokes, front 2mm different. That gives you an idea how close.

The main differences you already know. It's a question of whether the 100g weight loss is worth the price difference. Both are excellent hubs.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:20 pm 
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For me, both hubs are evenly expensive (living in Europe).

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:23 pm 
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Like Ergott said, the spacing is very similar between the two.

The Tune is lighter a bit more expensive, and will require cleaning and lubing more often than the T11. However servicing the Tune is not harder than the T11, it's actually easier, as dis-assembly is the same as DT style hubs. The end cap pulls off and then the freehub body comes off. Not that the T11 is hard to service but it isn't as quick as the Tune.

Both are great choices and it's hard to go wrong with either one.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:12 pm 
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I have pretty much decided on the White Industries hub myself because of gouging on the freehub body of my current wheelset. The gouging is not just added cost :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:28 pm 
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Gouging is going to happen on just about any Shimano hub that uses an aluminum freehub body. The easy way to prevent that is to flatten a construction staple and insert one of two of them between the cassette and freehub body spline. Of course as you mentioned that's not needed on the T11.

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I've notched a Phil Wood steel freehub body, so I don't think any material is immune.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:52 pm 
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White industries would make this set a great everyday wheelset. Mig/mag combo would make them an insanely light alloy set. This is weight weenies so get the mig/mags and show them off!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:22 pm 
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madcow wrote:
Gouging is going to happen on just about any Shimano hub that uses an aluminum freehub body. The easy way to prevent that is to flatten a construction staple and insert one of two of them between the cassette and freehub body spline. Of course as you mentioned that's not needed on the T11.


If your running 11-speed go for a campy casette and body (and save weight as well). Campy's UD spline doesn't gourge aluminum splines like HG. (while youre atit go for a campy chain as well to improve shifting and durability while reducing noise)

For the same reason a Campy body'ed campy/fullcrum whell is arround 40g ligther than the HG versions. Even when using Record hubs (Zonda and above)

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I have a wheel set built with tune 70/170's and one with chris king r45, similar Reynolds carbon clincher rims.

Both build very solid and stiff wheels. The Tune's are lighter and actually, in my experience thus far, don't make any sacrifices that would lead you to believe that they're one of the lightest hub sets on the market. I have 5,000 miles or so on my tune Hubset and closer to 10,000 on my Chris king R45's and my tunes, thus far, have actually been more reliable and are much easier to service than then CK's

I'm around 55-60kg and wanted a light wheel set for climbing. Realistically the hub weight won't make much difference in performance (at least less of a difference as saving rim weight would), but this is weight weenies afterall....

Major thumbs up for the tunes. They don't hold the downfalls of many other weight weenie parts (have you ever read reviews on those extralite hubs??? No thanks!)

For what it's worth, laced my tunes to Reynolds assault clinchers (2014 wide model) 20/24 with Sapim CX Rays. Rims were 375g each on the nose and the set weighs 1216g all said and done.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:44 pm 
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I went with the Tune mig70/mag170 hubs.
The wheelset arrived today and they weigh 1350 grams (front is 605, back is 745) without decals.

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care to share the price for this build?


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