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fdegrove
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by fdegrove

Hi,

For people like me who ride on roads covered in winter filth and lots of sharp flint fragments a conti gator skin tub may not be the last word in ride comforts e.t.c but it does not get cut up after a few miles. If used high TPI tyres all the time they really would not last long.


Agreed. Roads aren't that much better over here or anywhere I suppose.
Bottom line is that we all need to adapt to the circumstances. As much as I'd like to ride Veloflex Carbon or any other high Q tub all year and anywhere, it's a sad fact that short of moving to Italy it's just not a wise thing to do.

To my mind it's still my favourite all-around riding tyre though. (To some that may well be wishful thinking, I suppose....)

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by dha

Am attempting at running carbons year round. Yes I might regret it, yes it might get expensive. But I am only going to live once so.....

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by petepeterson

Hmmmm some Roubaix for me perhaps thanks.

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by canbakay

I use veloflex carbons year round, granted, i don't put a loooot of miles on them but I ride them through whatever crappy uk roads/weather throws.....

2 punctures in 3 years..good enough for me.

my curiosity is;

veloflex is priced very close to FMB..
veloflex get great reviews (to which I agree) but FMB seems to have an edge over it in terms of ride quality,
so is FMB less puncture resistant, what else explains its exotic stance point?

(fyi, I'm hoping to get on FMBs once my veloflexs run out)

(Im comparing the veloflex carbon equalivent of FMB, not sure if that the competition or the service course...)

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by TwiggyTN

I can't fault Veloflex at all, in fact I currently have Roubaix's out on my whip right now. However, the way FMB's are constructed is just amazing to me. The way the basetape is attached and the sidewalls sealed...just the best. When the numbers get pinned on, the FMB's come out, and more than that since the ride is just sublime and I can't resist.

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by fdegrove

Hi,

veloflex is priced very close to FMB..
veloflex get great reviews (to which I agree) but FMB seems to have an edge over it in terms of ride quality,
so is FMB less puncture resistant, what else explains its exotic stance point?


That all depends on where you'd buy your tubs. There are still a few shops on the old continent offering Veloflex tubs at lowish prices, say 25 % less than FMB.

Whether one make is better than the other is open for debate..... Either way, to me the difference seems small enough not to cough up the extra dough so I stick with the old faithful Carbons for the time being.

Regular equivalent to Veloflex Carbon would be FMB's Competition I believe.

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by dha

Does anywhere in the UK (online) stock FMBs on a regular basis?

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by canbakay

fdegrove wrote:Regular equivalent to Veloflex Carbon would be FMB's Competition I believe.


damn i was hoping you'd say the service course...(black sidewalls)

dha wrote:Does anywhere in the UK (online) stock FMBs on a regular basis?


jedisports..

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by fdegrove

Hi,

jedisports..


Which one?
I know Jedi in Germany. They do carry Veloflex but not FMB AFAIK.
FMB is selling directly from their own e-shop.

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fdegrove wrote:Which one?


brain fart...its jedi cycle sport....

http://www.jedicyclesport.co.uk/Store/FMB/FMBTYRES.html

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by fdegrove

Hi,

A Competition CX goes for 79 quid. That's 94.80 euro. :shock:

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by dha

canbakay wrote:
fdegrove wrote:Which one?


brain fart...its jedi cycle sport....

http://www.jedicyclesport.co.uk/Store/FMB/FMBTYRES.html


Ta

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by FlemishCompact

Never flatted on Conti Sprinters in my limited use (1k km) in LA. just my 2 cents

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by Anth73

I'm about to commission a pair of 25mm Conti Gatorskin tubulars on my commuter for the daily ride to work and back in Melbourne where the roads aren't too bad.

Also got a 23mm front / 25mm rear Vittoria Corsa Elite tubulars I'm going to put on the good bike for training rides. I'll let you know how that goes in a few months.

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by Zigmeister

Well, after about 300 miles of running a Conti Force rear 24mm, and a Veloflex Carbon front 23mm on 56mm wide/aero, using both Continental/Vittoria glues, I've had no issues with either tire setup.

Honestly, the front Veloflex doesn't feel any better on the ride quality compared to the rear Conti considering the butyl/latex difference and proclaimed greatness of the Veloflex tire. I think a big difference is 1) my wheels are strung up with Alchemy/Tune hubs and CXRay at 136kpf approximately front/DS rear. Which, makes for a stiff rim/ride on a deeper profile and 2) until you get the tire pressure below 90psi, the stiffness/ride quality of both tires is the same. I've been running 95-105psi F/R lately, and weigh 170lbs now. So the ride is slightly better now that I dropped the pressure about 5-10psi per tire. But, theLatex/butyl, even with more butt weight on the rear and a stiff HT of the Scott Foil, I really can't notice any difference compared to even my Chinese 40mm running Conti GP4000S honestly, same lacing etc.

Conti makes a hell of a tire IMO. Their clinchers, and even tubulars with butyl tubes are really quality stuff.

With that said, that Veloflex Carbon is better than Vittoria Evo tubulars...I really dislike the Vittoria the last year/two and gave up on them for many reasons.

So with my odd setup, still led my team mate to a 2nd place sprint victory, and held onto 4th myself by soft pedaling the last 100m...so I guess my generic 56mm tubular aero Chinese wheels can handle the power and the tires are doing a good enough job...lol
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