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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:29 pm 
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Hi all,

I'm looking to purchase to a set of C24 Dura Ace clincher rims, but was just curious to what alternatives people would recommend, the budget is about £600.

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J.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:25 am 
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Shamal or good handbuiltwheels. It is easy to build 1400g wheels that are stiffer and give longer spoke life than the c24s.

The mavic open pro ust rims laced to light hubs like bitex are that weight.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:59 am 
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i went through this exercise a few years ago. The closest i could come up with was Fulcrums but the Shimanos always came out ahead in my view, but if I couldn't do Shimano it would be the Fulcrums or the Campy equivalent.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:11 pm 
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Hi there,

I have gone with the r9100/Dura Ace wheels.

One of my hand built sets (winter wheels) use Bitex hubs, nice light weight/run-of-the-mill hubs.

I've got three years warranty with the r9100 wheels, so should cover me for any issues :)

Thanks for the replies.

J.

ps - TBH I do prefer cartridge bearings over cup/cone, but time will tell.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:43 pm 
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i have wheels of both designs. i prefer the cup and cone in good weather but feel the sealed cartridge is more protected for inclement weather.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:57 pm 
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fromtrektocolnago wrote:

but the Shimanos always came out ahead in my view
How exactly did they come out ahead? The aerodynamic rim profile? The width? Or the fact that a worn rim is replaceable?

Well, I'm not saying, that they aren't good wheels. But the tech is a bit old, and it's too bad, that you can't replace the rims, since they make so damn fine hubs. And they didn't even improve them in the latest generation (9100). Some might say, they are so good, you don't need to change them, but they are too narrow for my taste. And you can easily hand build lighter and more modern wheels for less than the c24s.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:20 am 
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Multebear wrote:
fromtrektocolnago wrote:

but the Shimanos always came out ahead in my view
How exactly did they come out ahead? The aerodynamic rim profile? The width? Or the fact that a worn rim is replaceable?

Well, I'm not saying, that they aren't good wheels. But the tech is a bit old, and it's too bad, that you can't replace the rims, since they make so damn fine hubs. And they didn't even improve them in the latest generation (9100). Some might say, they are so good, you don't need to change them, but they are too narrow for my taste. And you can easily hand build lighter and more modern wheels for less than the c24s.
price, weight and road feel won me over. it may be old technology but it works. the ceramic bearings had me thinking for a while but the more i researched it the less i thought they added value. i'm not a techie, so i can't give you a scientific answer. and when i spoke to the local bike shops i trusted they told me i can't go wrong with the c-24's.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:56 pm 
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No doubt they are very good off the shelf alu wheels. But it annoys me that with their r&d department, they don't make something even better. Why don't they follow the trend of making wider rims, when their C35 and C50 are wider. And why don't they give the customers rim replacement option. And why those low spoke configurations 16/20, that makes it impossible to find other rim options.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:12 pm 
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Well if bitex are too budget spend more on the hubs.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:15 pm 
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Kinlin xr31t rims come in 16h and 20h drilling I have them in stock.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:19 pm 
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Saying you can't go wrong withe c24s is like saying you can't go wrong with the old mavic open pro or my 1988 BMW e34 530i. Nothing wrong with old but there is better. I keep the old car because it's not broke yet, I don't use it much and spend the money I could spend on a modern car one bikes instead.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:51 am 
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Multebear wrote:
No doubt they are very good off the shelf alu wheels. But it annoys me that with their r&d department, they don't make something even better. Why don't they follow the trend of making wider rims, when their C35 and C50 are wider. And why don't they give the customers rim replacement option. And why those low spoke configurations 16/20, that makes it impossible to find other rim options.
In recent years I considered the C24 a few times (I've ridden on it and it's definitely good enough) but never pulled the trigger. Went with wheelbuilder twice (Pacenti/Kinlin) and c17 Mavic Ksyrium Pro (the 1x time I needed Mavic warranty on a rim they sent a new wheel). For the reasons you mentioned, the rim was what kept the wheelset down in my options, also the low weight of the rim coming from less thick sidewalls made me question their longevity in wet weather. I wasn't looking for aluminium wheelset for dry sunny days.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:59 pm 
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I'd look at getting a custom build light wheelset that is tubeless ready ... a budget of £600 should get you something decent.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:34 pm 
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Custom build Ryde Rims Road Pulse Sprint on CKR45 Hub. Tubeless Ready!

Waiting impatiently on mine.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:02 am 
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Another vote for Shamal C17's (alloy brake surface) or the equivalent Fulcrum's.

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