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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:00 pm 
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Looking for a "do everything" wheelset that would go on my Tarmac. Want something deep enough to take advantage of "aero' speed benefits on the flats but also can still climb decently.

I've narrowed it down to the four below:

Enve 4.5 - top choice for me, but $$$$$!

Boyd 44

Knight Composites 35/65 Combo (thinking a set of 65's will be too deep on the hills?)

Reynolds Aero 46

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:30 pm 
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I don't own any alloy wheels and I've been on a wheel buying spree for most of the last year in search of that perfect balance. Knight are an excellent ride and the braking is the best I've had on carbon, but I'm not interested in clincher. Enve 4.5 are fine... but have no standout trait that makes them better at anything than my Reynolds 58. After back to back rides, I sold the Enve.

I'm currently deciding on "that" wheel between my Bora 35, CCU, and Aero 46. The CCU lack a little braking power compared to the others which is my only mark against them so far. The other two wheels are tied on braking. 46 are much livelier than the Bora - closer to the CCU actually - but they're a little jarring. That said, they've been the wheel I reached for most often for big days in the saddle where terrain is mixed. They are outstanding in the wind and actually feel a little aero unlike the other two. But I've got to sell something... drop me a line if you're interested in tubs. I'll make a FS ad for the Reynolds and one other wheelset this week once I get some pictures.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:48 pm 
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Never an easy question, depends on your terrain and budget. Looks like the latter isn't a problem for you but at $2100USD+ might as well get Boras if you don't mind the word "campagnolo" on a potentially non campy-bike.

I went through a similar dilemma recently and found that something like the FLO45 or similar is a good price point/spec for "every day" riding. $1200USD for the set but you can get the 60mm ones for the same price instead or mix them. They run a little narrow though, 24mm across to fit 23mm tire. It's pretty hilly around here (~220m of elevation per 18km) and can get pretty damn windy at times so 45.5mm is perfect for me (60kg rider) on my 2018 BMC Teammachine SLR01. If I had a full-on aero bike that demanded deeper hoops I would go 55 or 60, but that wouldn't be an "every day" ride for me.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:01 pm 
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That same price (~$1200) gets you on Reynolds too though - and they give up very little, if anything, to Bora

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:28 pm 
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Imaking20 wrote:
That same price (~$1200) gets you on Reynolds too though - and they give up very little, if anything, to Bora


most places have them listed at nearly full MSRP still at well over 2k.. but it looks like PBK has them for $1360. Hell of a deal. By all means, if you can get them at that price range and don't mind the V-rim profile :thumbup:

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Be sure you don't confuse the profile of the Aero lineup with something like the older DV46 - they are quite different. My 58 aero were some of the most stable wheels I've ridden. In my opinion, they easily outclassed 303, 3.4, and 4.5 in that regard. While also braking better. And spinning up quicker. I mean, otherwise they were terrible :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:19 pm 
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Bostonbull wrote:
Looking for a "do everything" wheelset that would go on my Tarmac. Want something deep enough to take advantage of "aero' speed benefits on the flats but also can still climb decently.

I've narrowed it down to the four below:

Enve 4.5 - top choice for me, but $$$$$!

Boyd 44

Knight Composites 35/65 Combo (thinking a set of 65's will be too deep on the hills?)

Reynolds Aero 46


Reynolds assault SLG. They are 44mm deep. Although I don't see much of the aero 46 in the streets. they are heavier and more expensive.
The assaults are more versatile. I have own them for over 3 years and those are my carbon everyday wheels.



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:28 am 
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Also consider the Fulcrum Quattro Carbon ... bit shallow at 40mm but good VFM and decent stiffness

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:28 am 
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For a more economical approach to aero, there is also a custom set of Nox Composites Falkor 55R

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:29 am 
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185lbs, and I like to sprint put of the saddle.... Need stiff and laterally complaint. Boston area roads are complete crap, need a wheel that's tough.

I'm really leaning toward the Boyd. Hard to find info on them on the forums....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:45 pm 
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I absolutely love the Bontrager Aeolus line, I know you didn't mention it. But its worth a look.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:08 am 
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I like my Zipp 303 firecrest clinchers for everyday.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:08 pm 
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Imaking20 wrote:
Be sure you don't confuse the profile of the Aero lineup with something like the older DV46 - they are quite different. My 58 aero were some of the most stable wheels I've ridden. In my opinion, they easily outclassed 303, 3.4, and 4.5 in that regard. While also braking better. And spinning up quicker. I mean, otherwise they were terrible :)


I dont recall but did you sell the Aero 58 in favour of the 46s? I have the 58s and am considering the 46s but dont know if it'll make a huge diff for my riding other than visual. :noidea:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:35 pm 
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Sort of. I had both at the same time and ultimately went with the 46s for visual reasons... and because the 58s sold first when I offered them both up. Honestly, the differences between them are so subtle that they're lost within a ride or two. I was primarily hoping for a more compliant ride with the 46 but it wasn't super noticeable. I'd say they're a hair smoother, a hair quicker to spin up, and don't seem to give up much pace. They're both excellent wheels. My wife has actually opted to keep the 46s and I'm selling off the Boras instead.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:41 pm 
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Hrm, excellent feedback. I'll just keep my Aero 58s instead of trying to replace with 46s.. Thanks!


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